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[The Revanchist]

I love everquest, i mean, i hate grinding, or levels, or mmorpgs, or the thought of working for something, but I really love Everquest!

[Tombom]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh i'm sorry? did you not read the Everquest logo, the classic part? Perhaps you were mislead some where that this was a pure pvp server? one with WoW emu status.

Looks like you are one of those sucky people too.

never said I didnt expect to have to buy a costco pack of tube socks just
to hit 30 without shitting myself/having my balls explode, all I am saying
is that grinding is not a representation of skill at EQ. The skill based part
is mass pvp, organizing as a team and shitting in peoples mouths, and
about 15% forum tanking.

Looks like you are mad about not having a life =/

[Cfred0-]

Pg 200 coming soon

[Vile]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lot of fancy words to say you weren't good enough.

yep... def not good enough to grind 240 hours (+ another 168 hours because i prefer to play a hybrid..)

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So a screenshot of that mob dead in the Skarlon hallway with a bunch of people with no fire resist gear, after we took the strat from a member who was in the guild is not enough evidence.

You mention your opinion on the situation is irrelevant, where I believe it was entirely at your discretion outside of the rules that a public announcement was made regarding GM decisions enacted upon players/accounts/guilds. It seems that your opinion is quite relevant.

I think the answer is we regrettably have to say GMs did not monitor the kills after a bug (obvious after looking at logs) was posted. Unfortunate, but the case. Further we have to, as a community, understand that if a GM does not witness it, screen shots are irrelevant after we were told they would be. Okay, and moving on..

And in summary, the rule is if a GM does not witness, it is permitted despite contrary evidence and can expect that our shot to compete fairly is subject to spot checks (3 kills later for them, once after they report us).

I understand it is no one's "job" to watch every raid mob kill. Fair.

I understand if it's not witnessed (with great hesitation saying so because of the overwhelming evidence offered and considering our source of obtaining the exploit) that no action will be taken.

Where you lose me though, is can I really expect that on an off night if you see a log of me pulling Nagafen and only a mage and a druid killing it, that no action will be taken against me if a GM is not present?

A yes or no answer is the last nail in the coffin for many of us on that last point.

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are asking for my personal opinion than I can oblige. I absolutely do not think the first kills were legitimate.

The keyword here is that it is my opinion.. my opinion alone does not give me what is necessary to take action on, which is a completely different situation. Just like a Judge may have an opinion about someone, may even talk down to them in court and say they were in the wrong, but in the end they ultimately have to prove without a doubt they were guilty to convict them.

You look at an encounter log like that and say, there's no way they could have killed nagafen with the number of players and the gear and char levels.. I look at it and consider the same thing and it pains me that I wasn't there to see it so that I could have the ammunition I would need to take action on it.

Rogean, can you answer Nirgon's post instead of avoiding it?

[Nirgon]

I think this thread has been so shitted up with LAWLZ and personal infighting, it is quite possible he doesn't feel like getting involved here anymore.

The truth is, punishments to the other side are promised but not realized. Further, we are all awaiting fixes to prevent dragons from being killed inside walls where they will not magic dmg aoe or fear.

I, along with the community (outside Nihilum), would like to see this addressed.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Mardur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vox CHed like 30+ times.

Just embarrassing this goes on bros. lol.

[Vile]

did he ever unban the peeps he said he was going to, or remove "more lucky than exploit" loot?

[Nirgon]

Far as I know? People are only suspended 2 weeks, so they'll be back in another week... less.

The loot? Still in game as far as I know and being used advantageously.

No suspensions handed down to the other guilty party, nor do I know if recent kills were even monitored. I presume not, but I do trust in the staff. We'll see.