Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ahh we went the misinterpretation route. On a 30s fight you'd use clicky once then maybe 1 regular faster cast nuke. You don't have to stick to 1 method the whole time. Dots would still be useless on a fight that short and would be stuck doing JBB but you could mix and match boots of bladecalling with a shock of steel depending on how fast things are dying and get higher DPS than the strictly regular nuke DPS number.

It's not misinterpretation. He simply didn't read the whole thing and cherry picked two numbers.

You wouldn't want to mix mana nukes and boots of bladecalling. You would lose 4 ticks of meditate (80 mana) per 24 seconds (17 clickie cast + 6 second Shock of Steel cast). That means you are spending 328 mana per Shock of Steel essentially, while only getting back 110 from clarity 2 + 100 from meditate over 5 ticks. You would be out of mana after 30 mobs. This is assuming you can perfectly meditate between two mobs.

Shamans can mix and match spells/clickies due to Torpor. Shamans can also increase how much they nuke if you want to go down the route of draining mana for more DPS.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not misinterpretation. He simply didn't read the whole thing and cherry picked two numbers.

You wouldn't want to mix mana nukes and boots of bladecalling. You would lose 4 ticks of meditate (80 mana) per 24 seconds (17 clickie cast + 6 second Shock of Steel cast). That means you are spending 328 mana per Shock of Steel essentially, while only getting back 110 from clarity 2 + 100 from meditate over 5 ticks. You would be out of mana after 30 mobs. This is assuming you can perfectly meditate between two mobs.

Shamans can do this due to Torpor.

Do you think it's realistic for that to matter? Most dungeons have 22+ minute spawn timers. In my experience, people mistakenly prioritize dungeons while leveling due to the ZEM but they ignore the fact that the monsters take so long to respawn they're not actually getting better xp.

In the overwhelming majority of dungeon groups I've participated in, if you're churning through mobs too quickly, you hit a dead zone of spawns.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you think it's realistic for that to matter? Most dungeons have 22+ minute spawn timers. In my experience, people mistakenly prioritize dungeons while leveling due to the ZEM but they ignore the fact that the monsters take so long to respawn they're not actually getting better xp.

In the overwhelming majority of dungeon groups I've participated in, if you're churning through mobs too quickly, you hit a dead zone of spawns.

I 100% agree. It is another reason why people are overestimating how important a Mage is. Realistically you are not clearing tons of mobs in a level 60 area. Both Shamans and Mages can increase their DPS by spending more mana if you are killing mobs at a slower rate (either kill speed or pull speed). Shamans can also root/rot if the area is easy enough to chain pull mobs that die in 30 seconds.

[PlsNoBan]

Oh boy we're root rotting mobs in xp groups again

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[Vexenu]

As was established well-over 100 pages ago, your forumquest math is nonsensical and in no way correlates to how EQ is actually played.

[Ripqozko]

We def hitting 200

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We def hitting 200

sorry you dont got data, hope this helps

[DeathsSilkyMist]

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sorry you dont got data, hope this helps

[Gloomlord]

Did you not realise why I said that?

You're claiming moral superiority over the "trolls", yet even from an unbiased standpoint, it's clear you're getting immense enjoyment over frustrating people.

Why are you still here? Answer the question.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you not realise why I said that?

You're claiming moral superiority over the "trolls", yet even from an unbiased standpoint, it's clear you're getting immense enjoyment over frustrating people.

Why are you still here? Answer the question.

Honestly you have no proof of this. You can check the post history. I am simply defending myself and my argument from memes, insults, the argumentum ad populum fallacy, and the "my experience trumps data" nonsense. Don't blame me for the 500+ posts that are literally just insults and/or memes. Posts that you have contributed to btw. You can provide better evidence to support your claims or stop trolling at any time. Nobody is forcing you to post.