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Old 09-01-2022, 12:22 PM
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Average Total DPS with https://wiki.project1999.com/Boots_of_Bladecalling : 48 + 35.29 + 16.95 = 100.24 DPS

Average Total DPS with JBB: 17.7 + 32.88 = 50.58 DPS
So by your own math, you are conceding that the Shaman can only hope to maintain at best half the sustained DPS of the Mage in a fast killing group? (i.e. one in which you can't get value from your DoTs and your best DPS comes from spamming JBB).

Are we finally done here?
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Old 09-01-2022, 12:43 PM
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So by your own math, you are conceding that the Shaman can only hope to maintain at best half the sustained DPS of the Mage in a fast killing group? (i.e. one in which you can't get value from your DoTs and your best DPS comes from spamming JBB).

Are we finally done here?
inb4 some idiotic argument about how you misinterpreted his data and/or shaman utility means more than literally double dps in a group with multiple encs and a cleric already. His own data basically confirmed what the "trolls" have been telling him for over 100 pages now. Mage is MUCH more effective DPS than shaman in a fast pulling/killing group. This fact is as blatantly obvious as anything could be but he repeatedly denied it cause of "muh data" and now his own data says the same thing we've all been saying.

Can't wait to see how he tries to spin this one
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Old 09-01-2022, 12:50 PM
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So by your own math, you are conceding that the Shaman can only hope to maintain at best half the sustained DPS of the Mage in a fast killing group? (i.e. one in which you can't get value from your DoTs and your best DPS comes from spamming JBB).

Are we finally done here?
The data below will show average DPS over the average 36 second kill speed of the group:

Average Total DPS difference with best clickies: 83.45 DPS - 52.95 DPS = 30.5 DPS. Please read hehe. Killspeed effects how many clickies you can use in a fight.

If you want to compare the 100 DPS clickie number, you would compare it to:

Average Total DPS with 1 Epic Click + 1x Pox + 2x Bane of Nife: 17.7 + 63 = 80.7 DPS

This is because the 100 DPS clickie number is assuming slower kill speeds. Slower kill speeds are why you can spam a 17 second clickie multiple times hehe. If you are killing a mob in roughly 30 seconds, you can only click the boots once. This is all in my last post, so please go over it more carefully if you want to ask questions or discuss it.
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Old 09-01-2022, 11:59 AM
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Quite the 500th post (in this thread alone).

Stern cringe.

Over 17% of his posts since 2014 have been in this thread alone.

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Old 09-01-2022, 12:03 PM
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Old 09-01-2022, 02:40 PM
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Quite the 500th post (in this thread alone).

Stern cringe.

Over 17% of his posts since 2014 have been in this thread alone.

hehehehe
You forgot to mention the combined 600+ posts from Troxx, PlsNoBan, Cyxthryth, Toxigen, Ripqozko, Gloomlord, etc. At least 500 of those are literally just insults and/or memes with absolutely nothing to do with the topic, bloating this thread like something in RnF. Mega yikes.

I'll take my post history any day thank you. Spreading out the trolling over 6+ people doesn't make it better[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-01-2022, 03:01 PM
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You forgot to mention the combined 600+ posts from Troxx, PlsNoBan, Cyxthryth, Toxigen, Ripqozko, Gloomlord, etc. At least 500 of those are literally just insults and/or memes, bloating this thread like something in RnF. Mega yikes.

I'll take my post history any day thank you. Spreading out the trolling over 6+ people doesn't make it better[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Do you enjoy being a self-righteous hypocrite, DSM? I really want to know.

You've lost. Pack it in and leave.
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Old 09-01-2022, 03:08 PM
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Do you enjoy being a self-righteous hypocrite, DSM? I really want to know.

You've lost. Pack it in and leave.
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You forgot to mention the combined 600+ posts from Troxx, PlsNoBan, Cyxthryth, Toxigen, Ripqozko, Gloomlord, etc. At least 500 of those are literally just insults and/or memes with absolutely nothing to do with the topic, bloating this thread like something in RnF. Mega yikes.

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Old 09-01-2022, 12:10 PM
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Old 09-01-2022, 01:15 PM
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Ahh we went the misinterpretation route. On a 30s fight you'd use clicky once then maybe 1 regular faster cast nuke. You don't have to stick to 1 method the whole time. Dots would still be useless on a fight that short and would be stuck doing JBB but you could mix and match boots of bladecalling with a shock of steel depending on how fast things are dying and get higher DPS than the strictly regular nuke DPS number.
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