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[Irulan]

P.s. I'm a grey anyway.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

World Cup has been awesome so far. How do you like England's chances?

I’m pissed because Iran could’ve beaten Spain. I don’t know about England but Belgium looks great.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by DinoTriz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can I get a head count? Who would support this?:

https://melmagazine.com/white-people...h-fc027aac6585

Keep your hands up so I can count pls

skip bayless needs a beating

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m pissed because Iran could’ve beaten Spain. I don’t know about England but Belgium looks great.

Germany might have woken up today. Kroos's goal was a beauty. I didn't see Iran v Spain either, but was Iran just not able to capitalize on chances?

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

World Cup has been awesome so far. How do you like England's chances?

Out on penalties in the quarter finals [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by holesum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shore does get quiet here on homosexual pride sunday

to give a tryhard answer: there's a big problem in the clinical psychological/counselling/social work world of extremely autistic people spontaneously self-diagnosing as transgender right now. The population already is hugely susceptible to radical and changeable claims about identity. The most common form of this is seeing patients walk in with sudden, extreme left or right wing views. Every single answer to every single question is some crass political statement. Last week, I kept trying to ask one adult about controlling his temper around his mom - and he said he wouldn't calm down until Sweden stopped letting in rapists from Eritrea. That was the answer to every question.

The reason for it is simple - autistic people don't understand the concept of 'identity'. Autistic people generally only understand concepts, tasks and behaviours that are linked to immediate and clear outcomes. Another way to look at it - autistic people expect every event to be linked to a causal factor that should be immediately apparent and simple to understand (sometimes people confuse this for deep, obsessive, detail-oriented thinking - no, it's just retardation).

So when gender identity disorder is presented in the media as a reason for people to feel alienated from society, or incapable of coping with their own emotions - that's a compelling narrative for any person unable to understand the complex and changing feelings they experience in response to the world.

Gender identity disorder is 100% real and hugely studied, and therapies exist to deal with it. But when significally autistic people insist on being transgender, it's bullshit. They are literally too retarded to even get through the tests we use to identify GID or gender dysphoric feelings. It'd be like giving a calculus test to a cocker spaniel. Significantly autistic people cannot comprehend what identity is, cannot describe their own emotions, cannot dependably identify gender expression in others, cannot be tested for any of it - and this explosion in autistic/transgender co-incidence is a consequence of retards being preyed upon by shitposters.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Swish2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Out on penalties in the quarter finals [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol. Well played, good sir.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to give a tryhard answer: there's a big problem in the clinical psychological/counselling/social work world of extremely autistic people spontaneously self-diagnosing as transgender right now. The population already is hugely susceptible to radical and changeable claims about identity. The most common form of this is seeing patients walk in with sudden, extreme left or right wing views. Every single answer to every single question is some crass political statement. Last week, I kept trying to ask one adult about controlling his temper around his mom - and he said he wouldn't calm down until Sweden stopped letting in rapists from Eritrea. That was the answer to every question.

The reason for it is simple - autistic people don't understand the concept of 'identity'. Autistic people generally only understand concepts, tasks and behaviours that are linked to immediate and clear outcomes. Another way to look at it - autistic people expect every event to be linked to a causal factor that should be immediately apparent and simple to understand (sometimes people confuse this for deep, obsessive, detail-oriented thinking - no, it's just retardation).

So when gender identity disorder is presented in the media as a reason for people to feel alienated from society, or incapable of coping with their own emotions - that's a compelling narrative for any person unable to understand the complex and changing feelings they experience in response to the world.

Gender identity disorder is 100% real and hugely studied, and therapies exist to deal with it. But when significally autistic people insist on being transgender, it's bullshit. They are literally too retarded to even get through the tests we use to identify GID or gender dysphoric feelings. It'd be like giving a calculus test to a cocker spaniel. Significantly autistic people cannot comprehend what identity is, cannot describe their own emotions, cannot dependably identify gender expression in others, cannot be tested for any of it - and this explosion in autistic/transgender co-incidence is a consequence of retards being preyed upon by shitposters.

This post turned me into a gay woman

[Irulan]

Wonkie is an autistic person. It's cool though. Sorry I confused you.

People misdiagnose people having autism all the time too I think.

Abusive trauma creating stunted childhood and obsessive compulsive behavior? Autism! Oh my.

Like yeah, trans ppl can also be traumatized by homophobic bullshit without ever coming out. People tend to always try to conform first. The problem is in expecting conformity. Or in ruling out a diagnosis because of another.

It's possible to suffer both a cold and asthma together. And both can trigger bronchitis.

There's this fad to blame social media on "sudden onset gender identity disorder". There is actually no such diagnosis. Obviously people shouldn't medically transition on a whim. Medical professionals aren't calling for this. The majority of people transition through informed consent as adults anyway.

The big political argument is that people are pushing this. No we are not. The only thing doctors and trans people are saying is that medical and social transition are the only effective treatments for what is now called Gender Dysphoria which is a different diagnosis from the old Gender Identity Disorder, which was originally given to a lot of not trans people. The old Gender Identity Disorder was used to indicate stuff that didn't work, like conversion therapy.

Even in the perfect ideal world we can't help everyone and every treatment isn't 100% effective. Even if being trans some how became cool. It's still hard. Even though overcoming adversity can reward us with strength, it's still adversity.

Being trans isn't cool. Kids know this. Crazy kids not withstanding. There's a lot of uncool things we don't censor and publicly shame. It's only cool to hate on transgender people, issues, science, facts, because of biases.

So in short, I think it's mostly bullshit to get any more worried and worked up over trannies than it is to get worked up over Rock'n'roll. Or Bikinis. We just aren't the social problem we are made out to be. Stop parading unscientific biased discredited speculation by quacks just to support personal bias and go experience life.

A lot of people die from chemo. We still indicate it. Same problem with transition. It's a last ditch attempt at otherwise salvaging an otherwise dead person. Kids should know this. The severity of it. And be educated just like we do with guns and weed. It shouldn't be stigmatized or made fun of.

Hope this helps your autism poke babe. I know you don't hate me.

I also think I'm a pretty good success story. I'm obviously still mad and angry but I don't hate myself and I think it shows. I think it shows that I don't take myself so seriously now either. Life is hard enough for everyone.

This long assertive post is just that. I don't hate you K. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[JurisDictum]

I might have mild Aspergers... Or I'm just a weirdo because my mom was crazy overprotective and pulled me out of school rather than try to get me to do my homework. See, she was a single mother social worker from a poor background. She didn't have the habits, energy, or ideology to sit down with me and make sure I'm doing my homework. Or punish me if I didn't etc.

Instead, she insisted I had a learning disability. None of the teachers in any of the schools I went to agreed with her. We would have these big meetings where all my teachers, the principal, and some psychologist that tested me would argue with her for hours. I had sit and watch it all.

When the subject came up at home she would launch into long rants about how fucked up the system was and I couldn't possibly be successful because of what they were doing. I would listen to her repeat the story over and over to her various friends when she got home from work. It didn't seem to occur to her she could have just spent the time forcing me to do my homework -- but it wasn't about me.

So by 14 I wasn't in school -- the constant moving made it hard for the truancy board to track me. I played games all day. The only reason I developed any discipline is because I wanted to get good at video games. My mom couldn't protect me from losing in Warcraft III. As ridicules as it sounds -- it got me through college despite no history of high school.

So maybe I was just a little bit socially off for those reasons -- and not because I'm on the spectrum...you guys decide.