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[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll be honest, I don't think our policy is remotely comparable to the holucost. But we aren't being honest with ourselves. I understand the reference, but at this stage in the game It's a terrible reference.

In an ideal world we'd be able to rescue these kids and stop all the cycles of irresponsibility and exploitation and abuse that leads to the need for borders. How are we going to do that humanely? We can't. It's impossible to be humane unless we just give up and sacrifice everything and let the flood of billions just wash this tiny bastion of civilization away. Is it worth letting everyone go free just so we don't have to think of the children? Even if we let these people free and gave them foodstamps and a greencard. They'd still be poor, exploited, and unwanted, unemployed, uneducated, and homeless. The children would still suffer horrifically anyway. Because there is no, freeee land no frontier here. The best we can offer them is a form of state slavery through institutionalization.

[JurisDictum]

One day we're all going to get it.

The peak of philosophical modernism during the lead up and shortly after WWII -- was just a brutal bloody era...Filled with corruption, propaganda and death in every country.

How many Japanese people did we burn alive? Not to mention the nukes...and that's just the Japanese! We now know we did this just to spook Stalin...except sociopaths don't spook, do they?

Meanwhile, don't feel too sorry for Japan...because ya know -- they were brutal colonalists that worked far more people to death than any communist country ever did. Their fucking Buddhist monks were telling the Chinese monks it was for their own good!

These are just a few off the cuff examples. Every country horrible then. Most are better now. The ones that aren't -- just remember we were there too once. Not that long ago.

[Patriam1066]

America is great all other countries have inferior potassium

[JurisDictum]

There are ways to solve the illegal immigration problem. Bigger walls and more camps is the dumbest way I can think of.

You got to the answer the question: "why do people illegally immigrate here?"

Solve that problem as much as possible for the best results. Maybe its because they can get jobs easy? Benefits easy?

As long as those two things are true...wtf would bigger walls solve the problem? It might help a little...but that's it.

Edit: This means Trump isn't all that serious about solving immigration problems...he's just serious about siding with anti-immigration sentiment. If the immigration problem was settled, Republicans would be fucked.

[LulzSect©]

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[skarlorn]

another way to solve the ilelgal immigration problem is to turn everyone who illegally immigrates and gets caught into an indentured servant for 20 years.

[JurisDictum]

I honestly think it doesn't need to be solved to the degree your average American seems to think. Yes, you can't have hordes of immigrants...but can you have quite a few immigrant workers and still have good jobs and benefits for citizens? Sure... A lot of countries do that.

Drives down the cost of business.

But no benefits for immigrants, and they have to get paperwork that includes taxing their income at a higher rate. Not to mention enforcement of this paperwork so business that skip it get hit hard.

[Patriam1066]

I think we should have a moratorium on melanin immigration for 88 years. Only Ukrainian blondes allowed in until further notice

[DinoTriz]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

another way to solve the ilelgal immigration problem is to turn everyone who illegally immigrates and gets caught into an indentured servant for 20 years.

Give them all to black people. Then in another 150 years, enslave an alien race and give them to the Mexicans. Rinse and repeat.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly think it doesn't need to be solved to the degree your average American seems to think. Yes, you can't have hordes of immigrants...but can you have quite a few illegal workers and still have good jobs and benefits for citizens? Sure... A lot of countries do that.

Drives down the cost of business.

But no benefits for illegals, and they have to get paperwork that includes taxing their income at a higher rate. Not to mention enforcement of this paperwork so business that skip it get hit hard.

I’ve never met an attractive illegal immigrant. Aesthetics matter