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Old 01-06-2022, 07:47 PM
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I believe most pro-lifers believe life begins at conception, so a condom would not be something they would see as immoral but the morning after pill would

Then again, sex before marriage used to be a no-no I believe with both Christianity and Catholicism, and that would include with a condom

So I guess it depends on how modern-adapted your belief system is
The sin is usurping God's will in the creation of life. Tacking some ex post facto Lutherist reasoning onto that just makes God madder and madder.
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Old 01-06-2022, 08:17 PM
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The sin is usurping God's will in the creation of life. Tacking some ex post facto Lutherist reasoning onto that just makes God madder and madder.
How is my choice to use a condom or pull out uspurping God’s will when God gave us free will?
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Old 01-06-2022, 08:34 PM
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The thing is the moral argument and what policy should be are separate questions. Some people might consider me very reluctantly "pro choice" because I do support things like the morning after pill, because I'm not personally religious and I think physical complexity is a relevant factor to consider. It's just that I place value on physical complexity much earlier than most on the left. Like, I support the texas heartbeat bill. I think the reasoning behind it is perfectly defensible. They would probably prefer that it be outlawed entirely, but it's still legal to obtain an abortion for quite a while, so they were willing to compromise in order to at least hopefully reduce the number of later-term abortions, and thus the total net number of abortions period.
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How is my choice to use a condom or pull out uspurping God’s will when God gave us free will?
Maybe I meant to say defiance or disobedience to God's authority. Some shit like that.

But it sounded cooler. 😎
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Old 01-06-2022, 09:23 PM
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Maybe I meant to say defiance or disobedience to God's authority. Some shit like that.

But it sounded cooler. 😎
Yeah to someone not that religious like me it gets muddled. Because I understand how both ecologically and religiously sex was meant to be for procreation…so it’s like if you don’t want/plan to have a kid don’t have sex. But that might not fit a healthy marriage. For example, if a couple has 3 kids and only has the capacity to care for 3 kids, does this mean swearing off sex for potentially the rest of their marriage or until the wife hits menopause? How is a sexless marriage devoid of intimacy a healthy one, even from a religious standpoint?
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Old 01-06-2022, 09:43 PM
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Yeah to someone not that religious like me it gets muddled. Because I understand how both ecologically and religiously sex was meant to be for procreation…so it’s like if you don’t want/plan to have a kid don’t have sex. But that might not fit a healthy marriage. For example, if a couple has 3 kids and only has the capacity to care for 3 kids, does this mean swearing off sex for potentially the rest of their marriage or until the wife hits menopause? How is a sexless marriage devoid of intimacy a healthy one, even from a religious standpoint?
Yeah his role as the Creator/creator of life.

I should words better. 🐒
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Old 01-06-2022, 10:22 PM
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In my universe.

Evil is smote by the righteous and no one bitches about that or runs screaming to governments. The government does not involve itself in the evil smiting or stand in its way. The government simply administrates the aquaducts fairly for all and if the government fails in this task. Smiting.
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Old 01-06-2022, 11:38 PM
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So apparently this famous die-hard leftist, Hasan Piker, doesn’t seem to hate and may actually have some begrudging respect for Jordan Peterson. This is interesting, because you can tell tribalism has instructed him to hate JP due to I guess his history of transphobic statements and support of capitalism and meritocracy. But Jordan was never completely transphobic, he just protested legally-enforced speech, at least to my knowledge

I stumbled onto this video trying to find Ethan’s perspective on his little Twitter feud with Joe Rogan. I can’t say this is worth a watch. I could only get through like the first 20min

I don’t understand why leftists like Hasan lean so hard on the “Conservatives are the way they are because of their views towards feminism and the fact they can’t get laid”. For someone that acts like such an intellectual debater that is such a dumb and lazy take

I would love to debate this guy on at least that point. A huge chunk of conservatives are older married men (and women) with children and grandchildren, how does this theory apply to them? And both parties have “basement-dwellers” who can’t get laid. Both these groups have common characteristics such as low IQ, which makes them easy to manipulate especially to violence, and often mental illness or being on the autism spectrum. None of those characteristics are their fault. Hasan dismisses conservatives that can’t get laid as due to them being “repulsive nazi’s”. So what’s his explanation for the liberal basement-dwelling men who can’t get laid, because I promise you they’re out there, in equal numbers. You think all those Antifa hoodlums bear-macing old men and their pet dogs at a trump rally are going home and railing hotties? Sorry, not happening. The “foot soldiers” of either party are low-IQ socially awkward and often mentally ill men who can’t get laid

The only parts I did agree with was that pick up artists are generally a joke, people that “sell” masculinity classes are often a complete fucking scam (conservatives are big on the family unit, you should have learned to be a man from your dad not from some internet “guru”), and incels standards for women are completely out of whack. I think they think there are far more incels than there really are though

Anyway, rant over. First time hearing this Hasan Piker, was not impressed, at all

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Old 01-06-2022, 11:52 PM
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*swipes left on the tiny painted fingernails and overly tight ring and wireframes with the "i just grew this but it took three weeks intellectosexual beard"*

Tldr, that's a big nope from me dawg.
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Old 01-06-2022, 11:59 PM
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*swipes left on the tiny painted fingernails and overly tight ring and wireframes with the "i just grew this but it took three weeks intellectosexual beard"*

Tldr, that's a big nope from me dawg.
Fair enough if u meant TL[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]R on my rant, it was long lol

I dunno much about this Hasan guy, but he’s apparently a semi-big deal amount young leftists. He’s a multi-millionaire socialist in a capitalist country (always an odd pairing those two concepts) who has a really successful twitch and maybe YouTube channel. And apparently he may have done some debates or challenges high profile conservatives to debates

That’s what I had heard about him prior
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