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Zeelot · #**1211** 03-13-2013, 04:22 PM

You mean this?

Quote:

. Your logs, which show Trakanon hitting you while you are invulnerable, are inconsistent with the server encounter logs. IF Trakanon indeed hit you when you got up from FD while hidden, and continnued to hit you while DA'd; and IF this was 5 seconds after Option on the server encounter log; THEN the timestamp match of this would conclude that you continued to maintain aggro on Trakanon while DA while more than 6 people had been added to Trakanons aggro list.

If you wanted the logs from when more people engaged I have that too. It was on Biggslick after me. He was one of the first bunch of TMO to engage after me.

[Sun Mar 10 21:53:06 2013] Trakanon tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:06 2013] Trakanon tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:07 2013] Angerclaw says, 'torpor lfg'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:07 2013] Unbrella begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Envite begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] ---------------------------
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 Grandmaster] Chief (Human) <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 Sorcerer] Acillatem (Human) <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Arkyiane <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Twaila
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Tombola <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kautin <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Saragirl <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 High Priest] Apostle (Human) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aenarie <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Thrump <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kaimandroth <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Xarzzardorn
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kleavage
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Raden <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aalamar <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Redonk <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gadfly <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zucantiz <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 High Priest] Alyssya (High Elf) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Biggslick <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 High Priest] Nothing (Gnome) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Sericx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zilo <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [59 Troubadour] Dalven (Wood Elf) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Montyzuma <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ipoql
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] There are 27 players in Old Sebilis.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:10 2013] Tanasg begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:10 2013] Acillatem tells the guild, 'WIZ LFG'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:11 2013] Chief tells the guild, 'lfg'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:12 2013] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:14 2013] You say to your guild, 'GO GO GO'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:22 2013] Trakanon beams a smile at Biggslick
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:22 2013] Trakanon says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'

Tanthallas · #**1212** 03-13-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 47shadesofgay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why can nobody prove this? We know what the GMs have ruled, so option posting his logs, or somebody posting fraps should be the easiest fucking thing in the world to over-turn something like this.

Are people really not running/fraps/enabling logs on raiding? If that's the case then I guess people deserve to lose mobs.

That is how loot is decided, even with all of Zeelot's inconsistencies, SOME measure of proof must be put forth by the claiment in order to reverse a decision I would think.

Showing that Zeelots claims on what happened on his personal logs cannot be reconciled with the server encounter logs is not proof enough?

Zeelot · #**1213** 03-13-2013, 04:23 PM

Unfortunately my melee hits aren't turned on, so it's the best I have.

Tanthallas · #**1214** 03-13-2013, 04:23 PM

Sorry, but these logs show nothing in regards to my claim.

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Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean this?

If you wanted the logs from when more people engaged I have that too. It was on Biggslick after me. He was one of the first bunch of TMO to engage after me.

[Sun Mar 10 21:53:06 2013] Trakanon tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:06 2013] Trakanon tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:07 2013] Angerclaw says, 'torpor lfg'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:07 2013] Unbrella begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Envite begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] ---------------------------
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 Grandmaster] Chief (Human) <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 Sorcerer] Acillatem (Human) <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Arkyiane <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Twaila
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Tombola <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kautin <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Saragirl <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 High Priest] Apostle (Human) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aenarie <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Thrump <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kaimandroth <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Xarzzardorn
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kleavage
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Raden <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aalamar <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Redonk <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gadfly <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zucantiz <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 High Priest] Alyssya (High Elf) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Biggslick <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 High Priest] Nothing (Gnome) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Sericx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zilo <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [59 Troubadour] Dalven (Wood Elf) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Montyzuma <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ipoql
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] There are 27 players in Old Sebilis.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:10 2013] Tanasg begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:10 2013] Acillatem tells the guild, 'WIZ LFG'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:11 2013] Chief tells the guild, 'lfg'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:12 2013] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:14 2013] You say to your guild, 'GO GO GO'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:22 2013] Trakanon beams a smile at Biggslick
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:22 2013] Trakanon says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'

Ele · #**1215** 03-13-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My logs don't matter. Wouldn't show much anyways because what I did was ALL before zeelots logs. When zeelot got aggro is when the aoe took me out on the second tic after da/ww. I never ran in. Zeelot had to wait for me, but in petition I ran in and fizzled a spell... after death.
Which is not true.
I've talked to zeelot, He also agree's I didn't run in and he had to wait for me.
the real issue is....

FE got FTE
Guide using personal logs over server
I fizzle spells beyond the grave

Claims to be first engager.

Logs irrelevant.

47shadesofgay · #**1216** 03-13-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean this?

If you wanted the logs from when more people engaged I have that too. It was on Biggslick after me. He was one of the first bunch of TMO to engage after me.

[Sun Mar 10 21:53:06 2013] Trakanon tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:06 2013] Trakanon tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:07 2013] Angerclaw says, 'torpor lfg'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:07 2013] Unbrella begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Envite begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] ---------------------------
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 Grandmaster] Chief (Human) <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 Sorcerer] Acillatem (Human) <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Arkyiane <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Twaila
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Tombola <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kautin <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Saragirl <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 High Priest] Apostle (Human) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aenarie <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Thrump <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kaimandroth <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Xarzzardorn
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kleavage
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Raden <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aalamar <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Redonk <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gadfly <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zucantiz <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 High Priest] Alyssya (High Elf) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Biggslick <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [60 High Priest] Nothing (Gnome) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Sericx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zilo <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [59 Troubadour] Dalven (Wood Elf) <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Montyzuma <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ipoql
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:08 2013] There are 27 players in Old Sebilis.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:10 2013] Tanasg begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:10 2013] Acillatem tells the guild, 'WIZ LFG'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:11 2013] Chief tells the guild, 'lfg'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:12 2013] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:14 2013] You say to your guild, 'GO GO GO'
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:22 2013] Trakanon beams a smile at Biggslick
[Sun Mar 10 21:53:22 2013] Trakanon says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'

Uhh.. what was Trakanon doing between the 6 seconds he hit you and then began to cast a spell, and then the 12 seconds between casting a spell and beaming a smile at Biggslick?

47shadesofgay · #**1217** 03-13-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Showing that Zeelots claims on what happened on his personal logs cannot be reconciled with the server encounter logs is not proof enough?

No.

kotton05 · #**1218** 03-13-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Claims to be first engager.

Logs irrelevant.

I died, trak reset, there for irrelevant.

Tanthallas · #**1219** 03-13-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 47shadesofgay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhh.. what was Trakanon doing between the 6 seconds he hit you and then began to cast a spell, and then the 12 seconds between casting a spell and beaming a smile at Biggslick?

Being put into a time machine.

Ele · #**1220** 03-13-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 47shadesofgay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhh.. what was Trakanon doing between the 6 seconds he hit you and then began to cast a spell, and then the 12 seconds between casting a spell and beaming a smile at Biggslick?

Probably running back and forth like a chicken with its head cut off.

Or could be that other's hits/misses and getting hit/misses are filtered out so they never get recorded to the log.