BRONKUS

[Elderan]

So basically what people are saying is this.

If a group is in a dungeon lets say Sebilis. Then you have to clear to that group to pvp them or invisibility to that group. If you aggro mobs on the way to PVP them and train them to that group then you are going to be suspended.

I think there is a pretty simple solution. If people are actually trying to pvp that group then bringing mobs might just happen and is ok. However if you are not trying to pvp and just intent to kill them with a train that is not ok.

Good example. In the video above it is clear that Bronkus was actively engaged with them in PVP. The second video shows some mobs aggroed during this process. But is still a continuation of this PVP act and therefore would be ok.

Hugs who trained us last night in Sebilis. There were 5 of us, he tried to run mobs to us and die. Never once actually trying to pvp us or cast a spell. This is clearly an intent to train a group and is not OK.

But really the whining on this server is really bad, some people just need to grow up.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So basically what people are saying is this.

If a group is in a dungeon lets say Sebilis. Then you have to clear to that group to pvp them or invisibility to that group. If you aggro mobs on the way to PVP them and train them to that group then you are going to be suspended.

I think there is a pretty simple solution. If people are actually trying to pvp that group then bringing mobs might just happen and is ok. However if you are not trying to pvp and just intent to kill them with a train that is not ok.

Good example. In the video above it is clear that Bronkus was actively engaged with them in PVP. The second video shows some mobs aggroed during this process. But is still a continuation of this PVP act and therefore would be ok.

Hugs who trained us last night in Sebilis. There were 5 of us, he tried to run mobs to us and die. Never once actually trying to pvp us or cast a spell. This is clearly an intent to train a group and is not OK.

But really the whining on this server is really bad, some people just need to grow up.

you dont know what you are asking for. you think hugs training is bad? lol if this shit is made legal there gonna be a lot of mad from both sides because the real trainers havent even stepped up to bat yet. please make training legal and let the ocean of tears swell.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you dont know what you are asking for. you think hugs training is bad? lol if this shit is made legal there gonna be a lot of mad from both sides because the real trainers havent even stepped up to bat yet. please make training legal and let the ocean of tears swell.

I never said make it legal. I said there are several types of training. Only one of which should be illegal. The one in which the sole intention is to train mobs onto a group of people with the intent of the mobs to kill the people without any attempt to actually pvp.

Another example of what should be ILLEGAL training. Raid pulls X boss, they have lets say 20 people at him. 1 or 2 people run mobs to the raid with no real or actual attempt to pvp. The mobs kill the people.

Training that is kinda grey area but should be legal. Group is exping in a dungeon, lets say 6 people. A group of say 2-6 people zone in, run to them and start pvping. During this process they aggroed mobs on the way. The group wins the pvp battle but dies to the mobs. This should be legal as long as a real attempt to pvp happened.

I came from blue. Training happens 100x more there then here. But while people there might yell at someone for training they dont whine 1/10 as much as people do here about it and it happens a ton more there. They also dont fraps every stinking thing.

Sit at the zone in of COM on blue and you will get a train every 10 min. Simply you always need to be aware, here and there.

[SamwiseRed]

ya i like that zoneline right next to efreeti. clearly you dont play here if you havent experienced the sol b train.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ya i like that zoneline right next to efreeti. clearly you dont play here if you havent experienced the sol b train.

I was referring to the tune incident in which I was responding to in that reply.

My response earlier was clear in that Bronkus was engaging in PVP with this group as clearly shown in the first video.

[mwllowyellow2]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was referring to the tune incident in which I was responding to in that reply.

My response earlier was clear in that Bronkus was engaging in PVP with this group as clearly shown in the first video.

Tune was fraps training both sides of CoM/EJ in an attempt to kill an oor player hence why he was suspended.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by mwllowyellow2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tune was fraps training both sides of CoM/EJ in an attempt to kill an oor player hence why he was suspended.

Does not matter if they were at the zone line. Unless you can show Tune telling the person hey I am going to train you and kill you it is impossible to know the persons intent.

[mwllowyellow2]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does not matter if they were at the zone line. Unless you can show Tune telling the person hey I am going to train you and kill you it is impossible to know the persons intent.

The GM's thought it was enough to suspend him so that should be enough reason for you lul. The GM's are not corrupt on here like most think although I do find it interesting about sundawg/arzak trying to mess with faction in chardok after azrael does the same pull tune did for so long.

[Xantille]

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Server will burn if you allow training. BURN.

[The Ban Hammer]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was referring to the tune incident in which I was responding to in that reply.

My response earlier was clear in that Bronkus was engaging in PVP with this group as clearly shown in the first video.

Elderan how many times must I state that he the videos are TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS, he loses one pvp battle, goes heals up comes back with mobs and FD's them on us and THEN attacks us.