Camping Raid Mobs... gone on long enough ?!

[Yoite]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I reiterate: What raid drop is there currently in the game that gives one raid guild an advantage in Kunark over another raid guild?

AoN for instant click junk buff for tank(s) for dispell mobs?

[Yoite]

but ya, i know what ya mean. i dont think there is anything thats gonna make or break ya if you dont have it right now.

[Mady]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) We are exerting effort. Regardless of how you feel about it, it does take a certain degree of effort to track, camp, and kill the mobs on this server. It is an effort that we in IB and DA are willing to exert, and the rest of the server is not. It doesn't take any large amount of skill or intelligence, but it IS an effort.

2) I love how random people like you make these wild assumptions about people you don't know. You make it sound like every L50 on this server is some sad pathetic power gamer.

3) you talk about how we are "ruining the game for everyone else" as if it is our duty to ensure that you have a good time on P99. I highly doubt you logged on this morning thinking "man, I'm going to go out of my way to make sure Loke enjoys himself today." Just as my enjoyment isn't your primary concern.. your's isn't mine either.

Basically this thread is just a bunch of people complaining about how they aren't being spoon fed the game, and instead have to compete with players who put in more time and effort. If you want a fair chance at every encounter - go check out instances in WoW.

This is just exactly like reading the live veterans lounge in one of the raider/ non-raider threads.

[Reiker]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I'm saying that any guild that visits Hate and Fear on a regular basis is basically in full end game gear already.

Don't tell me that an extra damage per delay on a dagger (example) is going to put you over the top at level 50. (And by the time your level 60... I refer to my original point.)


So I reiterate: What raid drop is there currently in the game that gives one raid guild an advantage in Kunark over another raid guild?

Answer: There isn't one...

Sorry to burst your bubble guys.

Dunno why I'm responding cause everything you post is pretty dumb. But there's very few single "make or break" items that give an entire raid an advantage. Having just 1 uber dragon/god loot on every member of a 40-50 person raid is a cumulative advantage over another guild that has none. The extra DPS of a rogue with Bone Razors or whatever raid weaps, dragon haste, and maxed stats vs. some casual rogue with maybe a full set of woven shadow and a kedge spear or whatever could make or break your attempt on a dps burn mob like VS. And that's 1 member vs. 1 other member, now scale this to see the gear advantage an entire raid force can have over another when your clerics can squeeze and extra CH out of their BCG or whatever.

Shouldn't have to explain this, really.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dunno why I'm responding cause everything you post is pretty dumb. But there's very few single "make or break" items that give an entire raid an advantage. Having just 1 uber dragon/god loot on every member of a 40-50 person raid is a cumulative advantage over another guild that has none. The extra DPS of a rogue with Bone Razors or whatever raid weaps, dragon haste, and maxed stats vs. some casual rogue with maybe a full set of woven shadow and a kedge spear or whatever could make or break your attempt on a dps burn mob like VS. And that's 1 member vs. 1 other member, now scale this to see the gear advantage an entire raid force can have over another when your clerics can squeeze and extra CH out of their BCG or whatever.

Shouldn't have to explain this, really.

um...

Bone Razor Dmg 10, Dly 22.
(drops off dracho, was an easy kill by the way)

Eyerazzia Dmg 10, Dly 24. +4 Sta +5 Dex
(drops like candy and pretty much every rogue that's been to Fear has one)

So the bone razor will help how much exactly?

Bard haste + chanter haste + haste item... check! (haste maxes out you know)



Did I mention that these raids for the first couple months will be completely bloated with players who all have access to the raid strategies and some form of vent? If we were talking about a first time 20 main raid on Trak I might agree with you... maybe. But we are talking about raid forces that will most likely be 50+ players on a regular basis.

Did I also mention that there are random weapon drops all over Kunark that are better than your "uber" items? Hell, you will probably find some upgrades on the way to your very first raid target.

But good job on calling my posts dumb, stay classy!

Hey, if you want to believe you have a huge advantage over everyone else then so be it. Whatever helps you sleep at night. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bumamgar]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm merely saying that if you think killing these classic bosses will give you an advantage when Kunark comes out you are delusional.

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But good job on calling my posts dumb, stay classy

Pot, meet kettle...

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pot, meet kettle...

I fail to see how those two comments are the same thing and I stand by this comment:

I'm merely saying that if you think killing these classic bosses will give you an advantage when Kunark comes out you are delusional.

[Bumamgar]

If you call others delusional for not agreeing with you, that's classy...

Him calling your posts dumb, that's not classy...

I got it now... thanks!

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you call others delusional for not agreeing with you, that's classy...

Him calling your posts dumb, that's not classy...

I got it now... thanks!

I wasn't referring to him specifically, I was referring to the community at large.

Most people on the server know that classic loot will be junk once Kunark is released.

Some people just don't want it said too loud because it effects their e-peen or ability to overcharge for items or whatever.

I've yet to see a single example of one of these classic uber raid drops that effectively gives one guild an advantage over another in Kunark.

My posts are in response to this notion that trying to corner the market on raid spawns is going to help certain guilds when Kunark is released.

I'm calling BS on that.
You dig?

[SchadenFreude]

I've yet to see a single example of one of these classic uber raid drops that effectively gives one guild an advantage over another in Kunark.

A guild with tanks in full planes armor will fare much better against content in Kunark than a guild without any tanks in planar armor. The AC upgrade alone is a huge advantage.

Getting drops from the planes that will later be used to complete epics, before Kunark opens, is a huge advantage.

High end raiding guilds should be farming the planes as much as possible, right now, to minimize the delays in getting people fully geared when additional content opens. If the prerequisites are available today then why would anyone wait to begin those pre-reqs until November?