Ghaz's Plight

[Deric]

If the lower right symbol did in fact symbolize Bertoxxulous(Xulous) or Miragul in someway, why is it the most noticeable symbol throughout Erudin? And by noticeable I mean its on pots at the top of each tower(for each magical discipline), the covering and headboard of every bed, even the doors within the palace contain this symbol..

Seeing that the northern caves carved out supposedly by Miragul do contain this symbol could lead us to these conclusions and connections. But the dominance of it through-out all of Erudin puts this theory to some doubt. Miragul was involved much in Erudin during the early days within the Age of Turmoil, but nothing to suggest his hand in ever facet like this symbol seems to play.

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Though now I see it is also in Paineel.. So I don't know.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ghaz]

Apparently, there was a GM event in Unrest a couple weeks ago, telling the lore behind Dagnor's Cauldron. There was also the event that started in the EC tunnels and led players to Kedge. Can someone give some insight on these please?

[Cyrano]

The symbol from Erudin is definitely the Obelisk you can find in LFay which originally showed up in the Dead Hills. Both Bertoxx and the Envar/Prime Healer come from this area. My only question is which came first?

Both the Xolous and Envar were supremely powerful. Xolous was the only true enemy of dragons during the EQOA era.

Check out this link - http://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/The_Crypt_of_Decay

Lots of things to connect here but the story becomes clearer every day.

[Cyrano]

Oh sorry the connection is that the Erudin's derived their intense power from one or both of these cultures. The symbol is Erudin is more assuredly appropriated and not created by them. This also fits into my belief that the glowing sigils we find in Neriak/MM/QCat etc were placed by Miragul - the most knowledgeable Erudite of them all - and used as portals for him to travel in his various forms.

[rioisk]

anybody ever notice if this symbol is in the plane of sky?

[Cyrano]

I'm still not convinced that symbol in the center is Veeshan, the overlap of the Ankh of YDal makes me think it's Mayong although I can't be certain. It could very well be Kerafyrm who was also entrapped in a bubble.... given the new image from above with the "The Future of Everquest 2" text, it looks as if the original central figure has become more important than all others. Again would that be Veeshan (who I believe is dead?), Mayong, or Kerafyrm? Considering Kerafyrm consumed the swords which I interpret to be the hands of destruction he seems to most likely.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm still not convinced that symbol in the center is Veeshan, the overlap of the Ankh of YDal makes me think it's Mayong although I can't be certain. It could very well be Kerafyrm who was also entrapped in a bubble.... given the new image from above with the "The Future of Everquest 2" text, it looks as if the original central figure has become more important than all others. Again would that be Veeshan (who I believe is dead?), Mayong, or Kerafyrm? Considering Kerafyrm consumed the swords which I interpret to be the hands of destruction he seems to most likely.

Im still convinced its Theer, being that Qeynos Claymore and Soulfire are respectfully his left and right hands.

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The middle picture does resemble him alot and notice the symbols in the background perfectly match the ones at the bottom of the detailed Chelsith stone Mixxit originally posted.

[Deric]

Regarding the bottom right symbol again.. Erudin and Paineel do not share the same symbol-- I didn't look closely enough at first. But here they are:

Erudin:
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Paineel:
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[Crampers]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm still not convinced that symbol in the center is Veeshan, the overlap of the Ankh of YDal makes me think it's Mayong although I can't be certain. It could very well be Kerafyrm who was also entrapped in a bubble.... given the new image from above with the "The Future of Everquest 2" text, it looks as if the original central figure has become more important than all others. Again would that be Veeshan (who I believe is dead?), Mayong, or Kerafyrm? Considering Kerafyrm consumed the swords which I interpret to be the hands of destruction he seems to most likely.

I've been following this thread and it's been incredibly interesting.

From what I've read from yourself and other posters, I'm am also second guessing who this actually is. I am now also leading towards Kerafyrm.

IF this symbol is supposed to represent not only history, but a prediction to the future, then, like you suggest this Figure should still exist within our time. I'm taking 'our time' to be what EQ1 is currently at now.

Kerafyrm has recently been defeated - although was not killed. Simply put back to sleep. It might be good for someone who actually did this event on Live who understood the lore behind to post what they can. From what I can seem to read, it would appear even though he was close to death, was stopped from being killed. Why?

If he has indeed consumed these 'God killer' weapons, surely the dragons want him kept alive. With Kerafyrm's destruction, surely destroys the only way for the dragons to ever defeat the Gods? Maybe Kerafyrm could be used against the Gods as an actual weapon?

[Cyrano]

Oh and the other thing to remember is that the symbols are viewed differently via different lenses the lore of the game just as it is with us. While DE's might see Innoruuk as the central being, worshipers of Veeshan or Mayong or whoever could say the same thing.