Ghaz's Plight

[Akame]

This is an amazing thread, and I always thought I was good in EQ lore, turns out I'm just a newb! lol, But commenting on what little I do know atm (some of these quotes are from several pages back sorry!

Originally Posted by redghosthunter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now the question I'd be most concerned with is why the DEF's have this symbol? Most DEF's follow Innoruuk. Innoruuk's symbol is clearly outside of the center. It would make sense to find this, Circle of Protection in the cities of the cities of the people Inside the Circle. I guess this is yet another Oops on Veriant ??? No respecting DEF would want to empower "lessor," gods in their cities.

Remember, DEF's didn't start out as dark elves, they were created when Innoruuk "perfected" them by torturing the elven king and queen for a thousand years. Plus, every one of the deities talked about can be represented by dark elves.

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't feel comfortable with lumping Rallos Zek in the evil gods category. He's not exactly neutral, but you can certainly worship him and still not be KoS to most.

Correct, Rallos would closely resemble Chaotic Neutral. He is the god of War, nothing matters but war, peace is his enemy, and to die in battle is the only way to go, good or evil would have no meaning to a follower of Zek, only whatever cause suited best the purpose of creating war.

Ok back to the topic at hand, has anyone checked the images that are in the cliffs leading up to highkeep? I haven't seen them myself for 10 years but I always remember those being breathtaking, maybe some of your symbols are repeated there.

[Qaedain]

I'm going to go ahead and agree with Cyrano's impression that the symbol isn't so much a chronological dial, but a chronicling of events that all lead up to an ultimate event. The appearance of three categories of symbols at the center is significant:

1. Veeshan's emblem represents her continued literal influence, as well as a symbol for all dragonkind. Set beneath a northward arrow, we can say that dragons are in ascension.

2. Mayong Mistmoore is the second mortal to ascend to godhood following Zebuxoruk, and he did so by killing Ayonae Ro and converting her plane into the Theatre of Blood. He absolutely detests dragons.

3. The appearance of Aeteok and Enoxus--represented by Lucan and Antonia, respectively--indicates either that humanity will be a driving force in the end days, or the Sleeper will be a driving force, as I understand he absorbed both swords.

All three of these powers will be in contention for the ultimate fate of Norrath,

When we look back to consider the Chelsith stone, we see the Norrath of EQII being merged with various events, set upon a stone inscribed with symbols that foretold events in both the EQII timeline of Norrath and the EQI timeline of norrath. These symbols merging with Norrath can be found on Druid stones throughout EQII.

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[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Leokaiser [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What has my curiosity piqued is, with all these EQ veterans running around and putting so much effort into this yet finding no obviously conclusive answers, how Mixxit can know with certainty what it all means - assuming he indeed does!

I dont think anyone truly knows the full meaning to all of it other than its the "Doomsday Calendar" created by the shissar. I think what Mixxit may be looking for is what the next step p99 as a sever is about to reach. And I believe its the 9 o'clock position With Sky > Hole > Kunark being released soon.

[Deric]

If the lower right symbol did in fact symbolize Bertoxxulous(Xulous) or Miragul in someway, why is it the most noticeable symbol throughout Erudin? And by noticeable I mean its on pots at the top of each tower(for each magical discipline), the covering and headboard of every bed, even the doors within the palace contain this symbol..

Seeing that the northern caves carved out supposedly by Miragul do contain this symbol could lead us to these conclusions and connections. But the dominance of it through-out all of Erudin puts this theory to some doubt. Miragul was involved much in Erudin during the early days within the Age of Turmoil, but nothing to suggest his hand in ever facet like this symbol seems to play.

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Though now I see it is also in Paineel.. So I don't know.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ghaz]

Apparently, there was a GM event in Unrest a couple weeks ago, telling the lore behind Dagnor's Cauldron. There was also the event that started in the EC tunnels and led players to Kedge. Can someone give some insight on these please?

[Cyrano]

The symbol from Erudin is definitely the Obelisk you can find in LFay which originally showed up in the Dead Hills. Both Bertoxx and the Envar/Prime Healer come from this area. My only question is which came first?

Both the Xolous and Envar were supremely powerful. Xolous was the only true enemy of dragons during the EQOA era.

Check out this link - http://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/The_Crypt_of_Decay

Lots of things to connect here but the story becomes clearer every day.

[Cyrano]

Oh sorry the connection is that the Erudin's derived their intense power from one or both of these cultures. The symbol is Erudin is more assuredly appropriated and not created by them. This also fits into my belief that the glowing sigils we find in Neriak/MM/QCat etc were placed by Miragul - the most knowledgeable Erudite of them all - and used as portals for him to travel in his various forms.

[rioisk]

anybody ever notice if this symbol is in the plane of sky?

[Cyrano]

I'm still not convinced that symbol in the center is Veeshan, the overlap of the Ankh of YDal makes me think it's Mayong although I can't be certain. It could very well be Kerafyrm who was also entrapped in a bubble.... given the new image from above with the "The Future of Everquest 2" text, it looks as if the original central figure has become more important than all others. Again would that be Veeshan (who I believe is dead?), Mayong, or Kerafyrm? Considering Kerafyrm consumed the swords which I interpret to be the hands of destruction he seems to most likely.

[Cyrano]

Oh and the other thing to remember is that the symbols are viewed differently via different lenses the lore of the game just as it is with us. While DE's might see Innoruuk as the central being, worshipers of Veeshan or Mayong or whoever could say the same thing.