Tranquil Staff: Need Before Greed?

[OmeggaNog]

Originally Posted by gnomishfirework [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your monk doesn't actually need the Tstaff. You can play without it.

My God, someone actually telling it like it is.

I dont know where all these kiddies got the idea that NBG was "the way" on Live, because it wasn't. I started on Rallos in December 99, and post-Kunark there was never a NBG rule in any PuG I joined, ever.

NBG was restricted to inter-Guild groups.

These people that are claiming they know what Live was like didn't actually play, or can't differentiate from their past PuGs / Friend groups. The time from initial launch up to Kunark was all the time that was needed to destroy the foundations of NBG to the point of never seeing a NBG PuG group again until I quit EQ.

More importantly: The BIGGEST QUESTION of this thread has remained unanswered for 18 pages now.

Does ANYONE know the OP's MAIN? PLS SHARE!

[Alawen]

I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned this in all this nonsense. Here is the monk epic: Celestial Fists

You will note that the monk epic goes in the hand slot. Here is the Tranquil Staff: Tranquil Staff

It's a nice weapon. 29 damage with 30 delay and a proc that's really nice when soloing. It's a 2H Blunt weapon, so it goes in the primary slot. How do you suppose that interacts with the monk epic? Yes, you're probably going to use your tstaff situationally when you have epic and and SoS, but you're probably not going to sell it. Here is another nice weapon: Imbued Fighters Staff

It is also a 29 damage 30 delay weapon, but without the proc. In a group situation, It's effectively the same; the monk is probably pulling and not meleeing for all of a mob's life, so the difference to a group is so negligible as to be unnoticeable. The IFS sells for about 5K.

So what we basically have in this thread are a bunch of people who don't know what a monk epic is telling people how they should divide loot in high end camps.

It's okay, kids. You can NBG your Upper Guk camps and that's fine with everyone. Just don't pretend you know what's up at high value camps, because you don't. The line is somewhere around 2K or 3K. Above that and you'd better hope to get lucky on /random 100, because that's how it's going to be decided unless you're with close friends. It's doubtful that even your guild mates are going to hand over 10K or 30K or 80K just because you want an upgrade.

All this talk about blacklisting is ridiculous. Thalock or whatever can choose to not group with any NBG people. That just means he won't be at any of the camps with any valuable loot. Good luck saving up for your upgrades by selling fine steel.

On a final note, I don't want to group with any monk too clueless to realize that he's playing the most mindlessly overpowered class in the game and who doesn't know how to farm for himself.

[Silo69]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned this in all this nonsense. Here is the monk epic: Celestial Fists

You will note that the monk epic goes in the hand slot. Here is the Tranquil Staff: Tranquil Staff

It's a nice weapon. 29 damage with 30 delay and a proc that's really nice when soloing. It's a 2H Blunt weapon, so it goes in the primary slot. How do you suppose that interacts with the monk epic? Yes, you're probably going to use your tstaff situationally when you have epic and and SoS, but you're probably not going to sell it. Here is another nice weapon: Imbued Fighters Staff

It is also a 29 damage 30 delay weapon, but without the proc. In a group situation, It's effectively the same; the monk is probably pulling and not meleeing for all of a mob's life, so the difference to a group is so negligible as to be unnoticeable. The IFS sells for about 5K.

So what we basically have in this thread are a bunch of people who don't know what a monk epic is telling people how they should divide loot in high end camps.

It's okay, kids. You can NBG your Upper Guk camps and that's fine with everyone. Just don't pretend you know what's up at high value camps, because you don't. The line is somewhere around 2K or 3K. Above that and you'd better hope to get lucky on /random 100, because that's how it's going to be decided unless you're with close friends. It's doubtful that even your guild mates are going to hand over 10K or 30K or 80K just because you want an upgrade.

All this talk about blacklisting is ridiculous. Thalock or whatever can choose to not group with any NBG people. That just means he won't be at any of the camps with any valuable loot. Good luck saving up for your upgrades by selling fine steel.

On a final note, I don't want to group with any monk too clueless to realize that he's playing the most mindlessly overpowered class in the game and who doesn't know how to farm for himself.

this and ive had epic clerics roll on stuff, win it and it was "technically an upgrade" beucase it had +30hp and some +stam but meh it is what it is, gl getting anything outside of EC when your 55+

[Diggles]

IFS or bust

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Diggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IFS or bust

Yeah, I sold the 2 tstaffs I got while soloing because I acutally prefer the imbued fighters staff. Btw, when would a necro, wiz, druid, ranger ever get to call nbg on an item? Probably never, I had to farm plat and buy all my upgrades...nbg favors only a few classes at a few camps while excluding in many cases the classes required to hold loot camps. OP is a halfwit who thinks they don't have to work for it if they want nice items....btw tstaff so overrated.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I sold the 2 tstaffs I got while soloing because I acutally prefer the imbued fighters staff. Btw, when would a necro, wiz, druid, ranger ever get to call nbg on an item? Probably never, I had to farm plat and buy all my upgrades...nbg favors only a few classes at a few camps while excluding in many cases the classes required to hold loot camps. OP is a halfwit who thinks they don't have to work for it if they want nice items....btw tstaff so overrated.

Exactly. NBG is classist. I'm pretty sure if you put these NBG people back in the 16th century, they'd be the ones engaged in the slave trade.

[Chloroform]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

btw tstaff so overrated.

NOT if u wanna duel ppl, then monks are #1.

When the Tstaffs a procin, dont come a knockin!

BTW NBG is dead, everyone needs and everyone greed's. just let the dice do the talking! cuz in the end it works out. dont ruin ur reputation / get banned from ninja looting a t staff in an exp group!

[godbox]

tassle said it pretty much. wtf items would casters/preists ever get? all the good good is weird dragon loot you have to farm high end stuff over and over to afford.

on a second note A+ thread
even though the only person arguing in favor of OP is green ranger who was best ranger imo / also excellent troll

[sonicjoose]

Sorry broseph but im a 60 monk. Lost roll on t staff to an enchanter in KC made me so mad at first. Then realized yeah, wouldn't b fair if everyone didn't roll. Not many items like that in game and wouldn't b fair to the others if you got it. However, with a few lvls your monk will make more money than most characters if your willing to put in the time so. The T staff is just around the corner gratz!

[Acillatem]

I've seen too many "NBG" claims where the person turned around and sold the item a few days later. Never again.

If it's friends / guild only group I'm ok with NBG. But randoms or PuGs? everyone rolls IMO just becuz I've been burned too many times on people's "claims" of need.

While I can agree with Green Ranger's sentiments - after all I was NBG on Live - P99 is a different community (ie more hardcore players percentage wise than on Live). Not better or worse - just different. As such some things need to change in order to adapt.

Even some of the more casual guilds here would have been considered "competitive" back on Live heh.