2012 Presidential Debates

[dredge]

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[Lucky]

obama sure can tell a 5 minute story in 30 with the way he pauses

[hatelore]

Romney smoked that ass, imo. hah. Go grab horseface and ride off into the sunset obama [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[XgrimX]

Originally Posted by Reikerz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Xgrimx has now succumbed to "I have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation, so I will now post dumb memes" mode. Like I said, if you're an idiot then just accept it. I'm not judging you, just stay out of political conversations.

I was actually watching the debate.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Woodcon Valor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

have any of you played on red99? permanent exp bonus and all that jazz its almost as good as obama :P

ok now i think youre just trying some ingenius meta-troll, how you can equate red99 to every single thread created is just fucking mind blowing. well played sir, well played

[dredge]

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[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who won the debate?







The federal reserve.

+1

dredge kicks ass btw, tho i havent seen them in years. they used to play local shows around here all the time

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Reikerz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then it wasn't funny. Shouldn't you be begging people for money to incentivize you to write a book or something?



You're right, all those millions of people who are applying to every shit job available and being turned down from all of them are just lazy. So are those people who put in 4+ difficult years of college and completed a degree who can't find a job. Damn people, why don't they just get off their lazy asses and uh... get someone who isn't hiring to hire them!

Haha, I was with you until the difficult years of college. College in America is an absolute joke and a serious contributor to the state of our economic decay. We drive the costs up by promising every idiot kid that he'll get however much college loan money he needs to secure an education, then we act surprised when a bottom-of-the-barrel intellect has trouble paying back a quarter of a million dollars in loans.

A college education is not a fast track to excellence or high paying jobs anymore. It's a training ground where young adults have to prove they can read, write, and not do anything egregiously stupid before being ushered into their future careers. College today is what high school was in the 50s. We need to stop treating every kid that wants to go to college like he's a future MD and start treating him like the overwhelming likelihood that he will earn roughly $50,000 a year at his peak, assuming he is fortunate enough to find work.

The college system needs to be reformed. The private system is fine, but the loan system is not. If you want to secure loans for a private college education, there should be some massive hurdles to clear -- particularly in the form of standardized tests. Guarantee gradated loans to the top 10% based on standardized testing. The rest can go to public universities, community college, or enter the work force. There is no shortage of positions for manual laborers. But we don't need 20 million arts and crafts graduates of podunk private universities with massive debt that will turn them into slaves for the rest of their lives.

Of course, this will never change because once you guarantee loans for everyone, you can't roll it back and tell parents of dumb kids that their kid doesn't deserve enormous loans for an education they almost definitely don't need and won't utilize. And the corporate world doesn't want it to change, because so long as kids come out of school with debts in the tens of thousands of dollars and unsubsidized interest rates of 8%, they're going to have to take whatever job pays them enough to service that debt. We've got kids forced into careers they don't want the minute they get out of school.

Aside from the obvious impacts that has on the economy, IMO it also has seriously damaged the growth of economy by eliminating potential entrepreneurs. I'm not some hardcore Repub that pushes small business owners like they're Jesus's apostles, but when almost every kid coming out of college is left with a loan that forces them to take an entry-level job, you're obviously eliminating the opportunity for a lot of those kids to put together a plan to start their own businesses or be innovative in any way. They simply can't afford to take out even more loans to drop on a business idea that may fail when they already have loan payments to make.

[Lexical]

Okay, back to the debate.

Romney came out very strong in my opinion. I did not expect a return to his original virtues though I think it was shady to be running under a completely different platform from the get go. They presented their sides very intelligently and well, but Romney threw a curve ball and I don't think Obama was equipped enough to handle it.

Also, that moderator was one of the worst. You have to cut off the politicians or they keep rambling. Towards the end they just ended up shotgunning every issue simultaneously. Honestly though, both presidents should have to draft their argument in written form and send it to the other and then discussed because he said she said gets very old after 30 minutes.

Still, Romney surprised me. I still don't see a bright future for him, but it is definitely brighter than it was before the debate.
What is everyone's thoughts?

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Lexical [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still, Romney surprised me. I still don't see a bright future for him, but it is definitely brighter than it was before the debate.
What is everyone's thoughts?

Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who won the debate?







The federal reserve.