If a new p99 server opened with forced raid target rotations would you switch?

[Tr0llb0rn]

No need for another blue server. If you guys do not like TMO out poopsocking you on targets, come to the red server.

Would you rather out camp 100 TMO, or battle 20 Nihilum for raid targets?

/no brainer

A wipe is NEVER going to happen

A second blue server is NEVER going to happen (the one that exists now is already too low pop as is)

You have your options, pick your poison: camp it up with TMO, or do battle with Nihilum. I know which sounds more fun to me...

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My feeling is only TMO would go to these lengths.

your feelings mean nothing. It is exactly what would happen and most of you would never realize it.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your feelings mean nothing. It is exactly what would happen and most of you would never realize it.

Yea you are right. You could hide it from the community and the GMs forever. No whistle blower would ever spill the beans.


/sarcasm off

Asher

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea you are right. You could hide it from the community and the GMs forever. No whistle blower would ever spill the beans.


/sarcasm off

Asher

GMs would never find out because they wouldn't get involved. What part of no more GM involvement do you not understand?

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GMs would never find out because they wouldn't get involved. What part of no more GM involvement do you not understand?

This is a hypothetical server. I don't care if you don't think there will be GM involvement. There is no server yet. Who is to say what will happen in the future?

And even if your assumption was correct you don't think any old TMO members would let it slip? What about a mole from another guild joining?

Keep on making excuses.

Asher

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a hypothetical server. I don't care if you don't think there will be GM involvement. There is no server yet. Who is to say what will happen in the future?

And even if your assumption was correct you don't think any old TMO members would let it slip? What about a mole from another guild joining?

Keep on making excuses.

Asher

So your hypothetical server that will never exist, gotcha. Well as long as we are making up stuff that will never happen, I am going to become the new guild management guide of that server and never release any information and let you all imagine everything is okay.

[Gwence]

I am 100% for having an enforced rotation on this server, mainly because it would make so many TMO people mad lol.

I volunteer to oversee it as well.

[Splorf22]

I have to laugh at all the red guys desperately pleading for more people after having busily griefed off 300 players.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have to laugh at all the red guys desperately pleading for more people after having busily griefed off 300 players.

I think most of the big time griefers are gone but not many are interested in starting over on a PvP server where there are already so many established players. Personally I would roll a toon there if it had a different rule set.

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your lack of imagination is astounding.


and you are just nitpicking details of an idea that hasn't even been considered fully yet.


There are multiple ways to manage the issues that you bring up.. and it being a carebear server wouldn't have room for complaints because the competitive server would still be up too.


A few ideas.. would include.

*minimum guild size
*skill requirements (beat a certain boss or survive a certain encounter with limitations like no haste buffs or no hp buffs)
*IP check on characters.. one account one guild

I could go on but those are all details to be debated if the idea gained traction.


It would require more heavy handed enforcement on GM's part.. but I think thats what the carebears are calling for


and before you start nitpicking the ideas i tossed out to limit guild monopolization and try to work out loopholes in them.. I do realize you are trying to derail this thread into ambiguity and fine print.

No.

1. Minimum guild size: Any main can make a billion alts. See number 3.

2. Skill requirements: any top end guild with the bare minimum in numbers can beat a dragon. Without having to race, even fewer people are needed.

3. IP account check: Fine. Is there a maximum number of accounts a single person can have?

Forced rotations is asking for an instanced World of Warcraft scenario except far worse and far more boring as any one guild will be waiting forever to kill a dragon in 30 seconds only to wait a few weeks to kill another dragon in 30 seconds.

Carebears may think they want this kind of server, but they don't. Carebears want the same thing as hardcores. They just want it handed to them on a silver platter, and at relatively the same rate as hardcores.

What carebears also need to consider is that carebear, casual guilds do not operate well without the hard core Raid Leaders (RL) in evidence. I was in BDA before TMO, and I must say that without Chest on raids as RL, BDA was not so shiny in execution, meaning that if carebears truly want a server devoted to only carebears, your progression to top end guild status may never happen. Be careful what you wish for.