Staff - Players - TMO, a Treatise on the Future of the Server

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Susanbanthony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course there is room for PUG/randoming, if the server playerbase agrees and adheres to it. It's been happening for the past two weeks outside of VP.

I hear big things about those naggy and vox raids.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Susanbanthony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course there is room for PUG/randoming, if the server playerbase agrees and adheres to it. It's been happening for the past two weeks outside of VP.

You raid base has been missing 80 or so hard core raiders...

[apio]

damn, i couldve saved some serious time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] thanks for the TL DR

[JenJen]

eq is the most important thing outside work DUHHH

[Joroz]

This thread boils down to... If you don't want to be suspended don't do stupid shit that will get you suspended. Stop blaming people from taking advantage during your absence.

[Nirgon]

I think he's got a point, its playing a game of who can provide the best story to the GMs to burn someone for a mistake.

Fraps away, this will certainly improve your raid scene.

[Ravager]

Maybe not a bad idea at all, the server can force a rotation on TMO this way, if everyone is getting each other raid banned.

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe not a bad idea at all, the server can force a rotation on TMO this way, if everyone is getting each other raid banned.

Isn't that the definition of a GM enforced rotation? Something they didn't want? And with current rules, having to tell which raid force is wrong must be stressful to them.

May as well enforce a tiered rotation from the start, with clear rules to allow players to police themselves, like this (example):

Tier 1

Rules/changes:
- Variance removed.
- Time from spawn to kill allowed: 2 hours.
- No wipe allowed: if failure, the next guild ready goes in.
- Re attempt delay for "free" attempts: 1 hour (after a wipe, if there is a competition) unless given a "clear to go before that delay" from the competing raid leaders as courtesy.

List:
- Maestro
- Nagafen
- Vox
- Ragefire
- Draco
- Fay

Tier 2

Rules/changes:
- Variance down to +/- 2 hours.
- Time from spawn to kill allowed: 3 hours.
- 1 wipe allowed.
- Re attempt delay for "free" attempts: 30 minutes (after a wipe, if there is a competition) unless given a "clear to go before that delay" from the competing raid leaders as courtesy.

- Inny
- CT
- Trak

Rest is open to "competition" as you know it, with a +/-3 hours variance. We may back to the 100+ people sitting on spawn point, but that's classic I guess. Until guilds work something out.

P.S: I may have missed some important targets, but the idea would be to not cockblock epic / key content. Alliances would be allowed for certain, but would be seen as a single entity and must be stated clearly on the boards. For example, if BDA and Divinity make an alliance for Trak, there won't be 1 slot for each reserved, but only 1 for both. But they may fight Maestro as seperate entities.

P.P.S: I'll leave the following parts to some other people to bring great ideas on the table about:
- Should there be a restriction to enter / maintain presence in a rotation for an entity
- How do you select the next guild to engage after a wipe, to avoid the FTE snipe.

[radditsu]

Rotation would not even be needed with bi weekly pops and a shorter variation. People could compete and it be a competition.

Rotations would be great for certain mobs. OR an understanding to leave naggy/vox for open raids would be nice. But the central problem is the lack of spawns in a tighter timeframe so that raids could pick their targets and compete. It's currently a logout your main at the thing closest in window and play an alt league.

[Nirgon]

Yeah GM enforced rotation cuz people wanna play eye of zomm referee at 5:45am