Email to 3000+ ex VZTZ players - Page 12

Lazortag · #1 06-06-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Avon

I remember Lazortag making some retarded analogy about "If I'm selling lemonade, don't tell me to sell Iced Tea" or whatever. And being the brown-nosing nerd that he is, the GMs ate that shit up and loved it. ...

Here's the post in question actually: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...49&postcount=3. I said "If I sell lemonade, don't tell me I should be selling apple juice". Heartbrand was basically saying that the server should be democratic, which would be a horrible idea, mostly because people like you would have a say in what goes on. This was a pet project of two guys who liked classic eq, and continually people were questioning classic aspects of the server. I think a better analogy might be, "if I run an emulated EverQuest server, don't tell me I should be running an emulated WoW server". By all means make polite, well-reasoned suggestions about how the server should be run, but don't question every little fucking thing about it and get mad that the majority isn't always listened to. The majority of players here are demonstrably stupid and have no idea what would make a good server, so it's a good thing the staff doesn't let them vote on every change that's made. The average IQ of a red player is probably 2 or 3 standard deviations below that of the average blue player, and you can see this just from browsing through some of the illiterate drivel that's posted on these boards every day.

I'll give a half-assed reply to the rest of your post since you obviously did a half-assed job of writing it:

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So let me explain why that shit was retarded. Nobody was selling anything, it was being essentially given away with tips accepted. Why would someone give something away? The only way I could rationalize that is out of a desire to make people happy. So then if a large percentage of the people enjoying your free lemonade brought up that they would further enjoy a little more sugar, how is "FUCK YOU" a reasonable response

To further follow this silly analogy: there's a difference between someone politely asking for more sugar, and someone rudely demanding that they be given more sugar. The majority of players ruined it for the small minority who were civil and rational. By the way, the devs DID listen to the players for some issues, so I'm not sure what your problem is? Recharging, exp changes, and global ooc were put in at the request of players. I'm not sure even you know what you're talking about..

Avon Barksdale · #2 06-06-2012, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's the post in question actually: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...49&postcount=3. I said "If I sell lemonade, don't tell me I should be selling apple juice". Heartbrand was basically saying that the server should be democratic, which would be a horrible idea, mostly because people like you would have a say in what goes on. This was a pet project of two guys who liked classic eq, and continually people were questioning classic aspects of the server. I think a better analogy might be, "if I run an emulated EverQuest server, don't tell me I should be running an emulated WoW server". By all means make polite, well-reasoned suggestions about how the server should be run, but don't question every little fucking thing about it and get mad that the majority isn't always listened to. The majority of players here are demonstrably stupid and have no idea what would make a good server, so it's a good thing the staff doesn't let them vote on every change that's made. The average IQ of a red player is probably 2 or 3 standard deviations below that of the average blue player, and you can see this just from browsing through some of the illiterate drivel that's posted on these boards every day.

I'll give a half-assed reply to the rest of your post since you obviously did a half-assed job of writing it:

To further follow this silly analogy: there's a difference between someone politely asking for more sugar, and someone rudely demanding that they be given more sugar. The majority of players ruined it for the small minority who were civil and rational. By the way, the devs DID listen to the players for some issues, so I'm not sure what your problem is? Recharging, exp changes, and global ooc were put in at the request of players. I'm not sure even you know what you're talking about..

Second dumbest post ever. I won't put you on ignore, but my "half-assed" reply perfectly refutes your attempt at sucking GM/dev dick, so I don't need to restate it. Also I didn't say that there were never changes made on behalf of the players, xp got boosted before I left but I think global ooc happened after. My point is that the way GMs handled server drama caused a rift between players and GMs that made each subsequent interaction between the parties less and less civil. How about you address my assertion that the server would have been more fun for EVERYONE (GMS AND DEVS INCLUDED) if they didn't make it their business to police shit they didn't want to police and instead used their time to do shit they wanted to do. Unless of course their vision was to have a server with 16 people playing, then I suppose they're glad they ran off the stupid/rude/insert-insult-here majority.

Harrison1 · #3 06-06-2012, 02:35 PM

No, please inform me. Merriam.

Harr1son · #4 06-06-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fiegi 2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

another harrison account

the kids got determination you gotta give him that

But what he is trying to say is still yet to manifest itself. All I hear is QQQQQQQ and Cry cry cry.

Sads whiny waaaa. Really needs tissue. Cryin, crying ocean of tears. 'Nilbog and Brogean are mine frends, look I talk to em all teh tyme in IRC, look hat wat i'm tellin you. i'm seriously really telling you but you just can't get it. I cry, then you cry, crying about cries. But look. I'm really telling you something because i'm online with the bosses and I can spam spam cry because wow, I'm freelin that really online specialty."