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Old 09-03-2011, 02:08 PM
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You got a dev who also has a play character. Fine.

That character also happens to be guild leader of a guild. Eh, okay.

That guild also happens to be the guild that gets most of the raid targets on the server. Come on now.

The dev was poking around in VP and there is news of a "guild practice VP server" going up for that guild. Seriously?!?!?

Whatever the true story is... someone has GOT to understand how this looks to the rest of the server.
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Nilbog and Rogean must realize how this is perceived by other raid guilds. Nilbog says he looked at Xzerion's work and there appears to be nothing shady going on. We will just have to take his word for it.

But at long as a dev is a raid leader of the top raid guild there will always be speculation...
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:16 PM
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It doesn't matter how much he plays. Personally I don't think a developer should be playing at all. It has to much potential to corrupt, you either do one or the other. There is a reason if you play D&D you don't play DM and a player.

Regardless of what Xzerion's real intentions were, if he didn't play the game (especially in the lead guild) then none of this speculation would have happened at all, because you would know his intentions were only to develop.

I would rather have a slower release of content then a chance that the server is corrupted by people who have power and who play the game.
Right, but it's not up to you and that's not really a reasonable request. Developing is a ton of work, and Xzerion is proven aid. The development team obviously feels they need his help, and that's all that matters.

The potential for corruption is mostly paranoia. He doesn't have access to GM ability or the database, and even his developer abilities are abridged. He's probably monitored more closely than anyone on P99. There's no real risk, which is why all the claptrap about Xz is largely swept aside by Nilbog and Rogean. They KNOW he's not using his position to his advantage, because they've made it so he can't.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:18 PM
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But at long as a dev is a raid leader of the top raid guild there will always be speculation...
He's not even a raid leader, though.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:19 PM
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It's really as simple as this: Xzerion doesn't have the ability to do what he's being accused of. He didn't have access to the DB, which would be the only way to recreate VP as it is on P99. At most, if you actually believe Xzerion was doing what he did in VP for TR info, he got them the same information that Nilbog had already posted on the P99 forums. This was confirmed by both Nilbog and Rogean, who say he did nothing wrong. It's silly to believe Nilbog and Rogean are in on some kind of conspiracy to recreate test servers for TR.
i think nilbog said it over and over again, he wants to recreate the classic experience, he doesnt care about TR or TMO or Divinity or whatever, he cares about bugs, exploits and developement ...
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:21 PM
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He's not even a raid leader, though.
honestly wouldn't matter if he was or not.

If Xz was/is abusing his position some how, all he would have to do is inform raid leaders of various bugs and so on.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:23 PM
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Right, but it's not up to you and that's not really a reasonable request. Developing is a ton of work, and Xzerion is proven aid. The development team obviously feels they need his help, and that's all that matters.

The potential for corruption is mostly paranoia. He doesn't have access to GM ability or the database, and even his developer abilities are abridged. He's probably monitored more closely than anyone on P99. There's no real risk, which is why all the claptrap about Xz is largely swept aside by Nilbog and Rogean. They KNOW he's not using his position to his advantage, because they've made it so he can't.
You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:24 PM
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He's not even a raid leader, though.
well officer / former raid leder / former leader of IB / a guy with ton of knowledge about raiding in EQ.

He doesn't have to lead every raid just share whatever knowledge he has about raid bosses or how certain mobs path.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:26 PM
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It all makes sense now. Rogean and Nilbog, you think you can hide the truth forever, but I know now what the media is afraid to say: Xzerion used dev codes.

First of all, prior to 9/11, fire has never caused any steel frame building to collapse. The sudden, vertical, total collapse of the Twin Towers at near freefall speed can only be explained by the use of GM commands.

Furthermore, the WTC steel, if fully examined could have revealed the effects of explosives, which was quickly shipped oversees and melted down. Nice cover-up, Rogean. Deleting Xzerion's command logs was a violation of federal crime scene laws.
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You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.
And coincidentally all that information could have been gathered without Xzerion's help since it was hit point / damage / abilities. Which is all over the place (with links in Nilbog's VP thread on these forums). You don't have to steal P1999's data to recreate a copy if you're both using the same sources.
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You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.
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