Are You Letting Visa/Master Card Know You Support Free Speech

[OriginalContentGuy]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

depends on how the cells mutate and conditions ripen you.

so, sure.

I was asking you specifically Shov because you use metaphor and wolf is a metaphor and anyone following this thread including you can and I hope you will please speak up if you disagree. But I am typing this while expecting you to type your reply and waiting to post until you do because I could always be wrong and if that's the case I'd rather drink from your well than risk poisoning it with something fraudulent or deceptive if you can demonstrate that my conclusions don't hold water.

In my experience not only can you be a wolf, you can be a wolf and have empathy, and further it's possible for even a wolf to be vegan. And we are all animals who eat to survive and vary in our strengths and weaknesses and we all do the best we can. You can be a wolf (figuratively) and still be reasonable and critical about what you eat. I've never met a predator of any species who didn't have their own mind to make up about whether something is worth doing, regardless of their motivations.

I think that only a fool or a psycho would deliberately kill when there's a better choice available that satisfies the recognition of a problem and that the chooser freely accepts as being better, for whom the choice passes all efforts to dismiss it as fraudulent or as a deception by other wolves, and obviates the need to take life. And among all living beings who know sickness, old age, and death - who would dismiss a wise and compassionate physician, who himself appears in a form pleasing and agreeable to the one who is sick, who freely offers a cure for their illness asking nothing else but for them to be aware of the circumstances that caused it?

[shovelquest]

Yeah we basically agree, but I also am saying that in general the bad wolves will eat the good wolves unless the good wolves are really smart and so overall youll havea majority of bad wolves over time.

WHICH is why god made the gatherer, to convince the good wolves to die for them by fighting against the bad wolves so the ones left over can live in peace and then the grandchildren of the gatherers can demand they get to take the stuff the good hunters provided for them from the grandchildren of the good wolves that survived the fight and constantly say that they don't need them.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah we basically agree, but I also am saying that in general the bad wolves will eat the good wolves unless the good wolves are really smart and so overall youll havea majority of bad wolves over time.

WHICH is why god made the gatherer, to convince the good wolves to die for them by fighting against the bad wolves so the ones left over can live in peace and then the grandchildren of the gatherers can demand they get to take the stuff the good hunters provided for them from the grandchildren of the good wolves that survived the fight and constantly say that they don't need them.

It seems to me that rhetoric isn't about truth but persuasion, and the persuasiveness of one's rhetoric is its own truth independent of the content. But I hold the following to be true for people: first comes a full stomach; good and evil come after that. And so when you use those terms and also use words like God and prophecy in your conversation I have to question if you can be trusted to be right, and whether or not you yourself are hungry or have enough to eat.

And I hope you do because no matter what, if you decide I'm not a friend as Tupac said: Just because you lost me as a friend, doesn't mean you gained me as an enemy. I still wanna see you eat, just not at my table.'

I think we all must trust in each others' ability to decide and judge and solicit help from others who may themselves build tables or who have traveled the world and examined in detail tables you have yet to even comprehend let alone seat yourself upon. We all stand on giants shoulders and the journals of those great heroes as inheritors of their legacy as our traditions. Only by studying their journals and testimonies can we possibly hope to a future not fated to undergo their same mistakes and failures.

[WarpathEQ]

TLDR thread but would be pretty awkward if they did a study and found out that these types of games actually contribute to reducing sexual assault and crimes in the real world and that by banning them they are effectively advocating for people to be assaulted.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR thread but would be pretty awkward if they did a study and found out that these types of games actually contribute to reducing sexual assault and crimes in the real world and that by banning them they are effectively advocating for people to be assaulted.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR thread but would be pretty awkward if they did a study and found out that these types of games actually contribute to reducing sexual assault and crimes in the real world and that by banning them they are effectively advocating for people to be assaulted.

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[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by OriginalContentGuy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aggregating your purchase history to assemble a psychometric profile which is resold to marketers at profit all while you are paying them to loan you money as part of a never ending global cycle of debt and interest is a reward? Serious question there asked without presupposition.

A rich progressive friend of mine does “churning” which he’s described as going onto a Reddit thread to find the current credit cards that offer the most $ rewards

He then spends whatever it takes to reach the reward by using the card for all of his purchases. Then claims the reward, pays off the card, then cancels the card

The credit cards I believe are losing money with this practice and it shows because they often discover they have made the lists as a churn target and stop their rewards in response

And my friend hates big banks and credit card companies and sees this practice as sticking it to them, or essentially legally scamming them

I can’t post more about it though because I don’t want to deal with this forum being bogged down by 50,000 or whatever guest bots which it currently is

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR thread but would be pretty awkward if they did a study and found out that these types of games actually contribute to reducing sexual assault and crimes in the real world and that by banning them they are effectively advocating for people to be assaulted.

I wondered this with the advance in technology allowing pedo’s to have VR sex with digital children

Would it help to protect IRL children, or would it cause them to want the “real thing” even more

I fear the latter though

Edit: and the reason for fearing the latter is that due to the junk dopamine fix of porn in general, people that have a problem with it tend to continue to seek more and more taboo or otherwise abnormal kinds in order to continue to shock and infuse their developing porn dopamine tolerance. Which is one of my many critiques of porn as being unhealthy

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The credit cards I believe are losing money with this practice

depends on the company also, like Sofi,Chime and these newer banking apps / stock trading apps are juicing their numbers by offering 100 bucks if you refer a friend, free stocks, good yield on your saving account etc..etc are doing it to boost numbers so their stock price goes up. Apparently it's worth it to buy customers if on paper it looks like you got incredible growth Sofi is 21 bucks a share and it was 10 back in April.

robinhood has gone from 35 to over a 100 since April

and all these apps are offering banking services now, like Chase and BOA are turbo fucked when geezers kick the bucket i think

edit: also the math is way different as you go up the income scale, like the rich people cards that offer insane rewards, it's worth it for them to have that person as a customer

[loramin]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wondered this with the advance in technology allowing pedo’s to have VR sex with digital children

Would it help to protect IRL children, or would it cause them to want the “real thing” even more

I fear the latter though

Edit: and the reason for fearing the latter is that due to the junk dopamine fix of porn in general, people that have a problem with it tend to continue to seek more and more taboo or otherwise abnormal kinds in order to continue to shock and infuse their developing porn dopamine tolerance. Which is one of my many critiques of porn as being unhealthy

There was already an "experiment", of sorts, conducted in Japan. They previously had child porn legal there, and then a few years back they made it legal. A win for everyone (or at least children who don't like being raped), right?

Actually, no: the number of reported child abuse cases went up, dramatically (see the third slide of this presentation): https://www.fmu.ac.jp/home/public_h/...%20handout.pdf).

It turns out, child predators already have plenty of incentive not to rape children; that's not the problem. It's like when the penalty for murder is 40 years in prison, and politicians change it to 50: it doesn't lower the murder rate, because no one thinks "well if it's only 40 years I'm totally going to kill this guy, but if it's 50 fuck that".

Same issue with sex offenders: it's not that there isn't enough deterrence, it's that they have (sick) urges which cause them to harm others despite the consequences. More threats don't help ... but giving those people an outlet for their urges, which doesn't harm anyone else, does.

If anyone is interested in learning more (doubtful in this forum), this article You’re 16. You’re a Pedophile. You Don’t Want to Hurt Anyone. What Do You Do Now? is fascinating. If people really want to stop child rape, it begins with understanding the sex offender as a human being ... but our own (human) biases make us want to do the exact opposite (and so, child sex abuse continues ... while idiots continue to pointlessly censor video games).