Best solo melee class?

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's literally a melee class. Please refrain from giving advice unless you have experience playing the game.

You are such a sad, sad person.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are such a sad, sad person.

By your arbitrary “toe to toe” definition most rangers won’t qualify exping in this way either. Rogues either.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By your arbitrary “toe to toe” definition most rangers won’t qualify exping in this way either. Rogues either.

I'm genuinely curious whether you just didn't read my post, or are too dense to understand what I mean.

People are mentioning swarming and charming. THESE ARE NOT MELEE COMBAT.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm genuinely curious whether you just didn't read my post, or are too dense to understand what I mean.

People are mentioning swarming and charming. THESE ARE NOT MELEE COMBAT.

I’m not the one redefining bards as “not a melee class” when people use them to swarm and charm stuff. Use does not redefine role…you can break up a bag of ice with a screwdriver but that doesn’t make the screwdriver an ice mallet.

Melee is one of the ways they can kill things. A Druid with a primal and shovel of the harvest does around 7-10dps on a raid mob, bards often do 25dps on AoW. Which do you feel is more of a melee archetype? Also, a bard meleeing like this to 60 (ie the least efficient way) is still on par or faster than normal melees outside maybe a monk.

If you are trying to shift the status quo of the game understanding, try being objective and less emotional. The bulk of the players don’t agree with you so try a bit harder to convince them or realize your logic is flawed and stop pouting.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm genuinely curious whether you just didn't read my post, or are too dense to understand what I mean.

People are mentioning swarming and charming. THESE ARE NOT MELEE COMBAT.

Can you please keep your insults to the Rants and Flame section of forums? Thank you. This is your last warning.

[Cecily]

I did that on my SK. Dark elf with Yeli sword was fun.

[busted]

Bard is OP. Never sleep on the battle bard setup

[zelld52]

Y'all are just dense. Having Gate is not what differentiates Melee from Non-Melee.

Melee combat is. Swarming and charming are not melee combat.

I'll concede that bards are melee characters because they get dual wield and main-hand damage bonus - but nobody has admitted that suggesting a bard to swarm and charm for someone looking for a MELEE FOCUSED TOON is proof of your inability to comprehend basic information.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Y'all are just dense. Having Gate is not what differentiates Melee from Non-Melee.

Melee combat is. Swarming and charming are not melee combat.

I'll concede that bards are melee characters because they get dual wield and main-hand damage bonus - but nobody has admitted that suggesting a bard to swarm and charm for someone looking for a MELEE FOCUSED TOON is proof of your inability to comprehend basic information.

OP posted in this thread, of which the subheading says “Rogue / Monk / Ranger / Bard”. I would presume they were open to these four classes, potentially also the “Tank” archetypes.

People offered the bard as a suggestion. Others agreed this can be easily soloed via charming and swarming. At no point did the OP say they were unwilling to play a bard, use these techniques, or not use these techniques. A bard can easily melee to 60 as well, whether “toe to toe” fighting or reverse kiting like a SK (presuming you consider a SK a melee per that definition).

At no point did we suggest a cleric, shaman, or necro, classes which can melee to exp as well. At no point we suggested a ranger but only for bow rotting, of which that too is viable.

You are the one attempting to reinvent the definitions 26 years after game was designed. People aren’t agreeing with you so you are pouting and insulting them. Again, try harder to flip the status quo understanding of the game or realize you lack the reasoning to even convince the majority of people that a bard is not a hybrid melee class. Maybe it’s the plate armor, duel wielding weapons, not being able to quickly regen mana, not having essential caster spells, but having quintessential combat skills (like riposte)? If you lack an understanding, maybe ask ChatGTP to explain what the bard is. It might be more successful than I have been.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP posted in this thread, of which the subheading says “Rogue / Monk / Ranger / Bard”. I would presume they were open to these four classes, potentially also the “Tank” archetypes.

People offered the bard as a suggestion. Others agreed this can be easily soloed via charming and swarming.

I see your point about the subheading, but that does not change the fact that:

Charming and swarming are not melee combat.

My point is that it sounded like OP wanted to take a break from spellcasters, and wanted to have a toon that was easier to play. Charming and Swarming are not easier than meleeing. I could be wrong about OPs intention - but I've been around p99 long enough to know that people who main casters enjoy having a lower-effort toon to log in and just auto attack on.