Do you believe in fatalism or free will?

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Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone on drugs.com said that Olanzapine is the same as Xanax, just a sedative.

https://www.drugs.com/comments/olanzapine/

This is the only website on the internet where people can give reviews to their medication.

I'm not a fan of psych meds but I am addicted to Olanzapine and have to take them for life. I tried to quit it last time went 10 days without sleep, went to the doctor and cried really hard and he sent me to a mental hospital for the second time in my life, and here I am, back with 10 miligrams of Olanzapine.

It’s tough, because we wouldn’t know whether your insomnia without it is just a withdrawal symptom, because some psych meds when stopped, especially suddenly and not tapered down, can cause (usually psychological) withdrawal symptoms. It’s different than being “addicted” though, not like people get addicted to alcohol or street drugs. That is because you don’t have the other characteristics of an addict such as a desire to continue taking greater quantities, a major negative impact on your health/finances/social life caused by the drug that you are ignoring. Those are the characteristics of “addiction”. For you it is just moreso that your body and brain are temporarily dependent on the drug, meaning without it, you have some withdrawal. Actual addiction is more than that, it means the person is damaging other areas of their life due to the drug

But again we don’t know whether your insomnia is just withdrawal or due to some other mental or physical condition

I’ll mention my experience in seeing olanzapine (zyprexa is the brand name): normally years ago I only tended to see it with adults with Serious Mental Illness (just means that for them their symptoms are more severe) status. Usually with a psychotic disorder diagnosis like schizophrenia. Without the medication, they would be hallucinating, delusional, etc

More recently I have been seeing a LOT more olanzapine, the last client I saw today was on it, and so have about 3 other clients I have seen this month. In each of those circumstances, these were clients who had a developmental disability. I’m assuming (and this is only a guess as I’m not a doctor or their doctor) the olanzapine was being used to treat emotional disregulation leading to extreme behaviors, basically acting out too much

It does seem to have some sedative properties, but it is not categorized as one

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s tough, because we wouldn’t know whether your insomnia without it is just a withdrawal symptom, because some psych meds when stopped, especially suddenly and not tapered down, can cause (usually psychological) withdrawal symptoms. It’s different than being “addicted” though, not like people get addicted to alcohol or street drugs. That is because you don’t have the other characteristics of an addict such as a desire to continue taking greater quantities, a major negative impact on your health/finances/social life caused by the drug that you are ignoring. Those are the characteristics of “addiction”. For you it is just moreso that your body and brain are temporarily dependent on the drug, meaning without it, you have some withdrawal. Actual addiction is more than that, it means the person is damaging other areas of their life due to the drug

But again we don’t know whether your insomnia is just withdrawal or due to some other mental or physical condition

I’ll mention my experience in seeing olanzapine (zyprexa is the brand name): normally years ago I only tended to see it with adults with Serious Mental Illness (just means that for them their symptoms are more severe) status. Usually with a psychotic disorder diagnosis like schizophrenia. Without the medication, they would be hallucinating, delusional, etc

More recently I have been seeing a LOT more olanzapine, the last client I saw today was on it, and so have about 3 other clients I have seen this month. In each of those circumstances, these were clients who had a developmental disability. I’m assuming (and this is only a guess as I’m not a doctor or their doctor) the olanzapine was being used to treat emotional disregulation leading to extreme behaviors, basically acting out too much

It does seem to have some sedative properties, but it is not categorized as one

Multiple people on drugs.com reviews in my link state that without Olanzapine they can not sleep anymore. I'm not the only one. However, I'm one of the few who do not get fat from this drug I weigh less than 70 kg.

At this point just give me a wife with hugs & cuddles that's all I need to be happier. I had a job interview yesterday and they want me to work as a maintenance mechanic in an amusement park with rollercoasters. I hope I won't be scared from heights.

[SorenVC]

I feel SO LONELY!!!!

[SorenVC]

Also how can Olanzapine not be addictive when if you do not take it you can't sleep anymore. The 2nd time I went to the mental hospital was because I stopped taking Olanzapine for 10 days and I couldn't sleep in those 10 days then I went to the doc and cried hard and he sent me to that mental hospital.

They've tried giving me Quetiapine or something but I felt a headache for the entire day. So I take Olanzapine 10 mg now. It works but sometimes like today I stand up from bed at 11 am because it's harder to stay up with Olanzapine.

Some psychotherapists prescribe Olanzapine to patients with ONLY insomnia which is crazy. I was prescribed it when I was 16 because I refused to eat anything and was aggressive and talking rubbish. Now I only think rubbish. They said I had schizophrenia, asperger, psychosis but I already said that here. I also have OCD but I didn't tell anyone.

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Yay for nukes.

[Ekco]

i don't believe in anything

other than fuck polls that don't have a bush towers options

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Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also how can Olanzapine not be addictive when if you do not take it you can't sleep anymore. The 2nd time I went to the mental hospital was because I stopped taking Olanzapine for 10 days and I couldn't sleep in those 10 days then I went to the doc and cried hard and he sent me to that mental hospital.

They've tried giving me Quetiapine or something but I felt a headache for the entire day. So I take Olanzapine 10 mg now. It works but sometimes like today I stand up from bed at 11 am because it's harder to stay up with Olanzapine.

Some psychotherapists prescribe Olanzapine to patients with ONLY insomnia which is crazy. I was prescribed it when I was 16 because I refused to eat anything and was aggressive and talking rubbish. Now I only think rubbish. They said I had schizophrenia, asperger, psychosis but I already said that here. I also have OCD but I didn't tell anyone.

It’s just a slight difference in definition between physical dependence and addiction, I wouldn’t worry about it

If it were just for sleep, far more often I see people prescribed Trazedone. Or even hydroxizine at night

I also have insomnia, for me it’s genetic. It’s a pain in the ass. In a bad week I’ve gone 3 days in a row with zero sleep. For me it plays out in this weird mental state where I can still function during the day because my brain won’t shut off, but my body feels exhausted and I feel kinda slow and dumb. This current week has been fairly bad, I was getting 4 hours on a good night, 1-2 on a bad night. But last night I actually got like 5-6, enough to have an actual dream which I always love. You don’t appreciate dreams as much unless you never have them, I’ve felt

But yours is even worse than mine. 7+ days no sleep is nuts, for sure I would be hallucinating

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s just a slight difference in definition between physical dependence and addiction, I wouldn’t worry about it

If it were just for sleep, far more often I see people prescribed Trazedone. Or even hydroxizine at night

I also have insomnia, for me it’s genetic. It’s a pain in the ass. In a bad week I’ve gone 3 days in a row with zero sleep. For me it plays out in this weird mental state where I can still function during the day because my brain won’t shut off, but my body feels exhausted and I feel kinda slow and dumb. This current week has been fairly bad, I was getting 4 hours on a good night, 1-2 on a bad night. But last night I actually got like 5-6, enough to have an actual dream which I always love. You don’t appreciate dreams as much unless you never have them, I’ve felt

But yours is even worse than mine. 7+ days no sleep is nuts, for sure I would be hallucinating

It's because I didn't take Olanzapine for 10 days I thought the dependency would wear off. I really didn't sleep for 10 days but I can tell you if you lay in bed with your eyes closed you will not really have poor feeling eyes. But the rest of your body feels strained and intense. And it made me cry a lot more.

At least now I know I'll have to take Olanzapine for life. I am trying to quit porn since 1st March but always at the 3rd or 4th say I keep falling back to masturbation. I want to quit masturbation because it makes me feel tired and drained and unhappy. The Christians on reddit say I have to repent and pray to stop this porn addiction but I don't see how that works.

The only prayer I like is the silent prayer from Jesse Lee Peterson. I don't really like praying - sitting down with folded hands and say something in your mind. I don't see how such a prayer does anything. The silent prayer at least makes you be still and feel stillness. I really want to quit porn and masturbation. Maybe when I get to work at the new job it'll be easier to not do it. Right now I'm jobless and have too much time.

[Ekco]

We clearly dont have free will, if you started the big bang from same parameters everything would happen the same way.

That also allows time travel to work without destroying causality or splitting realities

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We clearly dont have free will, if you started the big bang from same parameters everything would happen the same way.

That also allows time travel to work without destroying causality or splitting realities

There is randomness though, at the quantum level. Things like half life and probability densities of electrons. So events that were not necessarily determined at the moment of creation