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Bard 34 8.25%
Cleric 26 6.31%
Druid 39 9.47%
Enchanter 53 12.86%
Magician 30 7.28%
Monk 17 4.13%
Necromancer 47 11.41%
Paladin 18 4.37%
Ranger 12 2.91%
Rogue 11 2.67%
Shadow knight 16 3.88%
Shaman 45 10.92%
Warrior 15 3.64%
Wizard 25 6.07%
Won't play on a new server 24 5.83%
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Old 03-02-2023, 02:51 PM
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maybe rogue would be best so you can pickpocket beads as soon as velious drops
"Stop, thief! <name>" = everyone at list blowing up instantly and more UN drama.

Lol, what were peeps saying "we're just playing our class!"

I know its not classic, but hope they make them magical on 2.0 just to prevent this.
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Old 03-03-2023, 12:42 AM
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They won’t have those dumb ass items in the game to ruin the classic experience the next go around. It’s the best PP/hr option in the game (manastone, beads) and if you ever wanna gear up it’s a no brainer. But it means you gotta play with those items in mind, so you shouldn’t main a character that can’t solo the evil eye, etc.

It’s just not classic to have a known timeline on those items. They were never added to late game servers, they just didn’t exist.

We don’t have egg shaped pumice except maybe on blue and we shouldn’t have these other nerfed items, unless they’re implemented in a permanent way that doesn’t railroad the entire vanilla and kunark progression.
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Old 03-03-2023, 09:57 PM
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if these devs learned anything, its that announcing a server 6+ months before its launch was a mistake.

months before green launched, full guilds were formed and farm crews established. people took weeks off of work so they could dominate from day 1.

IMO this is why there was no announcement for the teal/green merger, and no announcement for the velious drop.

i saw a documentary a bit ago about modern engineering and this scientist was asked why we aren't driving flying cars at this stage of the tech era, his answer was something that applies to like anything humans are involved with

the guy said something along the lines of: It's not that we lack the technology to mass produce a flying vehicle, its that regardless of the intention behind any technology, people will find ways to use it wrong"

this applies to flying cars, unlimited clean energy and yes, Project 1999
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Old 03-04-2023, 02:33 AM
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if these devs learned anything, its that announcing a server 6+ months before its launch was a mistake.

months before green launched, full guilds were formed and farm crews established. people took weeks off of work so they could dominate from day 1.

IMO this is why there was no announcement for the teal/green merger, and no announcement for the velious drop.

i saw a documentary a bit ago about modern engineering and this scientist was asked why we aren't driving flying cars at this stage of the tech era, his answer was something that applies to like anything humans are involved with

the guy said something along the lines of: It's not that we lack the technology to mass produce a flying vehicle, its that regardless of the intention behind any technology, people will find ways to use it wrong"

this applies to flying cars, unlimited clean energy and yes, Project 1999
Forget the documentary that made note of similarly wrong usage, but the earlier arcade games used to take a photo of top score players whenever they won which did not last long because most everyone would expose themselves to the camera.
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Old 03-04-2023, 10:32 AM
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if these devs learned anything, its that announcing a server 6+ months before its launch was a mistake.

months before green launched, full guilds were formed and farm crews established. people took weeks off of work so they could dominate from day 1.

IMO this is why there was no announcement for the teal/green merger, and no announcement for the velious drop.
I'm not sure what exactly 'dominating' in classic means, but I don't think people taking off work for launch is problematic. Allowing players to plan ahead, so that everyone isn't logging in during peak hours seems like it would alleviate the initial overpopulation problem.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:42 PM
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Is it even worth playing Bard at the beginning of the new Green?

Serious question here.
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Old 03-04-2023, 05:28 AM
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Is it even worth playing Bard at the beginning of the new Green?

Serious question here.
If not too many people are hybrid snobs I'd say it's worth it.
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Old 03-04-2023, 05:41 AM
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Is it even worth playing Bard at the beginning of the new Green?

Serious question here.
Bards don’t get anything of value starting in Classic other than the bard experience which perhaps peaks in Classic when the charm toolkit as its highest relative strength. No swarming, xp penalty and no useful legacy items other than farming to sell or use for alts. You can basically do the bard experience today on Green and Blue, only real difference is that there are less groups around.
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Old 03-04-2023, 08:21 PM
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Bards don’t get anything of value starting in Classic other than the bard experience which perhaps peaks in Classic when the charm toolkit as its highest relative strength. No swarming, xp penalty and no useful legacy items other than farming to sell or use for alts. You can basically do the bard experience today on Green and Blue, only real difference is that there are less groups around.
I already play a Bard on the current Green. Just wondering how it was back in Classic.
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Old 03-04-2023, 02:51 AM
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That’s kinda how I am about red Loramin. The staff have expressed Rogeans interest in another red and he has some positive quotes like the one below regarding the Discord pvp server.

They aren’t lying they have no reason to trick us or something. I hope they carefully consider the ruleset and item implementation they decide on, but I think it will happen at least one more time. There’s a lot of opportunity to do a better job and why not give it another swing. It was fun while it lasted and the new one will be even better.
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