Real talk: Blue is a beta cess pool

[Fammaden]

Blue is the best P99 server in history. Green players should feel humbled and honored to have an opportunity to join it one day.

[Toxigen]

consider blue

[Mantis187]

green is going to eventually be the same thing as blue was is it not? hardcore raiders and pixels? doesnt matter what sever its on it all leads to the same thing regardless people who have more time than others or am i missing something. I only got a level 30 bard on green but it was a good time regardless.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Mantis187 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

green is going to eventually be the same thing as blue was is it not? hardcore raiders and pixels? doesnt matter what sever its on it all leads to the same thing regardless people who have more time than others or am i missing something. I only got a level 30 bard on green but it was a good time regardless.

If a merge doesn't happen and green is left to run independently forever it will absolutely become like 99% the same as blue. Might as well call it blue 2.0 honestly if that's the plan. This mentally ill fella on the 1 month old troll account is DRASTICALLY overstating the differences and focusing on dumb shit like chardok AE and a history of GM corruption/scandals that occurred over the years on blue. While simultaneously thinking it's impossible that green will experience a GM scandal ever.

Basically all his arguments are terrible and make no sense and don't stand up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny.

[Mantis187]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a merge doesn't happen and green is left to run independently forever it will absolutely become like 99% the same as blue. Might as well call it blue 2.0 honestly if that's the plan. This mentally ill fella on the 1 month old troll account is DRASTICALLY overstating the differences and focusing on dumb shit like chardok AE and a history of GM corruption/scandals that occurred over the years on blue. While simultaneously thinking it's impossible that green will experience a GM scandal ever.

Basically all his arguments are terrible and make no sense and don't stand up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny.

Totally agree, now dont get me wrong green is a great place to get groups for lower levels but the 50+ scene deff blue. Still got alot of friends over there that play. Either way I have a blast on both servers and like having the option (b '')b

[ya.dingus]

Originally Posted by Mantis187 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

green is going to eventually be the same thing as blue was is it not? hardcore raiders and pixels? doesnt matter what sever its on it all leads to the same thing regardless people who have more time than others or am i missing something. I only got a level 30 bard on green but it was a good time regardless.

That's not what caused the difference on blue.

Blue was a mess of beta buggy stuff that other posters are unwilling to admit.

It's a combination of non-classic mechanics, major exploits that existed years, not days, and the remnants of a clique community that exists there that want to preserve their pixels community be damned.

Green cannot become blue unless you mirrored the same long history of exploits and massive rule changes through multiple years. It's just not possible to have the same environment.

Honestly -- wipe blue. Wipe.It.Clean.

So long as a part of community is stuck on blue ,they're going to want to dictate the parts of the project from moving forward that were always intended to move forward.


The final wipe is what's needed to bring us all back to a sum zero and start the project over clean and cohesive again.

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not what caused the difference on blue.

Blue was a mess of beta buggy stuff that other posters are unwilling to admit.

It's a combination of non-classic mechanics, major exploits that existed years, not days, and the remnants of a clique community that exists there that want to preserve their pixels community be damned.

Green cannot become blue unless you mirrored the same long history of exploits and massive rule changes through multiple years. It's just not possible to have the same environment.

Honestly -- wipe blue. Wipe.It.Clean.

So long as a part of community is stuck on blue ,they're going to want to dictate the parts of the project from moving forward that were always intended to move forward.


The final wipe is what's needed to bring us all back to a sum zero and start the project over clean and cohesive again.

Lol the exploits and things you talk of are way over. All those people got banned, and did you not see the massive rmt bans? There's tons of threads, all that duped plat is on banned accounts.

But at least it's nice to see you admitting what you really want, sorry you came to the party late but expecting them to delete everyone who was here before you is nuts /nod

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Allishia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol the exploits and things you talk of are way over. All those people got banned, and did you not see the massive rmt bans? There's tons of threads, all that duped plat is on banned accounts.

But at least it's nice to see you admitting what you really want, sorry you came to the party late but expecting them to delete everyone who was here before you is nuts /nod

Yeah that's a fair point. All of that is actually not on Blue at all anymore cause all of those people were banned eliminating their plat from the system.

However, if they decided to wipe Blue and merge with Green that's their prerogative. I think it would be dumb but it's their call; as long as the servers merge ultimately I would be fine with however they chose to do it.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The final wipe is what's needed to bring us all back to a sum zero and start the project over clean and cohesive again.

I have a serious question for you that I'm curious about actually.

If when they start Green 2.0 would you be okay if they just deleted Blue and Green 1.0? Like just got rid of them altogether and started a brand new fresh P99 PvE server.

[ya.dingus]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a serious question for you that I'm curious about actually.

If when they start Green 2.0 would you be okay if they just deleted Blue and Green 1.0? Like just got rid of them altogether and started a brand new fresh P99 PvE server.

It would piss off a huge part of the playerbase sure.

Do I think if players stuck around and it was the final and only wipe they did of the community's characters overall to bring us to a completely neutral state...

Then yeah, I think that might actually be a solution to wipe both green and blue. Dont know if that's the best solution, but it would get rid of all the wonky shit from blue, reset everything to neutral, and setup the project to successfully move forward with how it was intended. They could recycle blue into green all they wanted at that point, we'd be in the live stage and no longer dealing with artifacts from beta.

So yeah, maybe they go all Moses on it in the interest of fairness and with the advantage of experience and hindsight from the last 13 years of project management.