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Old 05-03-2022, 03:21 PM
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New_guy still hasn’t registered to vote. SAD BIGLY!
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:21 PM
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If you oppose abortion I really don't see how you can have any problem with this. You can't "privately" murder somebody. Abortion violates basically every fundamental human right *of the baby*.

It's really no wonder colorado wanted 9mo abortions. The left accuses the religious right of believing in magic because they think a 1 day old zygote is a human. They then engage in their own religious miracle thinking, that a baby magically becomes a baby as soon as the last bit of goop exits the birth canal or something. It's moronic and logically inconsistent.
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:24 PM
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If you oppose abortion I really don't see how you can have any problem with this. You can't "privately" murder somebody. Abortion violates basically every fundamental human right *of the baby*.

It's really no wonder colorado wanted 9mo abortions. The left accuses the religious right of believing in magic because they think a 1 day old zygote is a human. They then engage in their own religious miracle thinking, that a baby magically becomes a baby as soon as the last bit of goop exits the birth canal or something. It's moronic logically inconsistent.
Colorado is weird. Denver is the most racist place I’ve ever been and everyone has a BLM flag. I’d guess they’re going to find lead in the water because everyone there is a tattoo’d autist. My son moved there this year and so I’ve spent like 1-2 months in demver and while the hiking in Colorado makes me regret living in Texas all my life pretty much, the people are insufferable in Denver

Pretty sure Denver is turning the whole state blue, that and Boulder. Fort Collins and Springs seemed OK in my experience

Also, abortion isn’t murder. You can keep saying it but you are incorrect
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:33 PM
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If you oppose abortion I really don't see how you can have any problem with this.
I oppose abortion STRONGLY! I think it's murder, personally.

However! I think it's more criminal for me to FORCE my views onto another person, and their own body, because of my truth. They wanna argue it's not a baby and it's just cells. Do i agree with them? Absolutely not. But it's their truth.

Just like I think it's unfair of people to try and force their medical beliefs and preventive medicine onto others who oppose. What they might call science and truth, another might see as poison and lies.

Who's right in either scenario?

I stand for the constitution and freedom of choice because imho it's the only fair and reasonable thing we have without GOD himself here to direct us.
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:25 PM
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6 weeks in Texas is insane / extreme.

9 months is insanity too.

Why can't people just agree....get your shit together and decide by the end of the first trimester. Otherwise, you are now legally obligated to keep that child...even if you were drunk and let Billy from algebra class dump a load inside of you.
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:27 PM
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6 weeks in Texas is insane / extreme.

9 months is insanity too.

Why can't people just agree....get your shit together and decide by the end of the first trimester. Otherwise, you are now legally obligated to keep that child...even if you were drunk and let Billy from algebra class dump a load inside of you.
Roe v wade was closer to that than where we are now. But yes, agree with your position for the most part. I still think viability is a good end date. Agree that 9 months is extreme
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:58 PM
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6 weeks in Texas is insane / extreme.

9 months is insanity too.

Why can't people just agree....get your shit together and decide by the end of the first trimester. Otherwise, you are now legally obligated to keep that child...even if you were drunk and let Billy from algebra class dump a load inside of you.
I mean that pretty much *is* how I view it. I technically am pro-choice in that sense.

Dems are freaking out though because they consider it some kind of human rights abuse not to be able to chop up their 4 or 5 or 6 month old healthy baby and throw it in the garbage, so I come off sounding all religious-right.
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:35 PM
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Shouldn't it be illegal to murder people?
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:42 PM
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Shouldn't it be illegal to murder people?
Yes, I think so. However the opposing argument is that it's not murder because it's not a life "yet"

I don't agree with that, but who am I to say my view is superior to theirs? Like I said, without GOD here to answer these questions for us it's up to us to decide what we believe is the right thing. So personal freedom is everything.

If these pro abortionist people are in fact killing babies then they can talk to GOD about why they felt it wasn't a real baby.

If these anti vaxers are harming others by not getting a vaccine then they can talk to GOD about why they felt it wasn't necessary.

Why are we trying to play GOD ourselves and push our ideas and views down each other's throats? Shouldn't thou not judge? Lest you be judged yourself?
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:46 PM
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ok so this is a debate about what a life with rights is.

Your argument is what?

Mine is that once you there is conception, a baby will come out of the woman UNLESS you a. destroy it, or b. a tragic accident happens and it is destroyed.

so if destroying is =/= to killing then it should be alright to destroy a person.

OR you are saying destroying = killing, and that the fetus is different than mankind... however, without killing it, there is no other final result except: mankind.

It is not a "clump of cells" anymore than you are, the difference is that you can walk and talk... and if we're using that to define "person" then abortion should be OK until age like 5.

If we're saying you cant kill it if it looks like a person, than it should be illegal to destroy a doll.

What, science, can you argue that it is NOT person at conception?
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