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[imperiouskitten]

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[unsunghero]

Past studies (which will be hard as shit to find, don’t use Google lol) have shown some negative consequences to diversity. I don’t remember them all offhand, I just remember hearing about how these studies that weren’t intending to find them noticed some. The obvious ones would be the impact of forcing together cultures or especially religions that have strongly opposed viewpoints, a recipe for conflict

It’s becoming more rare, but there are countries and places with homogenous populations that are doing well

There’s obvious pro’s and con’s to everything. The problem is I can harp all day about the pro’s of diversity (which there are) but mention a con and I’m a bigot or xenophobe. So there’s no actual critical thought or analysis going on, just a one-sided echo chamber

[unsunghero]

Oh, one thing that I have learned is that if you want a culture you are bringing in to assimilate or integrate into your country, do it a little bit at a time. Make it a situation where this tiny group, like a single family, is surrounded by a foreign culture. This basically leaves no choice but to assimilate or integrate to some degree

The more people of the same culture you bring and put in an area, the less overal assimilation and integration you will see. What you will see instead is insulation. They culture will form a little bubble of itself, insulated against having to assimilate into the country it is residing in

I just see this as typical human behavior. I’m the same way. It’s hard as shit to learn a new language and all these new customs. If you moved me to China, but put me in a huge America city in China, I would be far less likely to learn Chinese language and customs than if you threw me by myself into the middle of a Chinese city. Humans will always pick the path of least resistance

[Ooloo]

The idea that all cultures are equally good is one of the largest blind spots for the left. Not all cultures are created equal. Western enlightenment values are the cornerstone of everything we enjoy. We wouldn't be sitting here arguing on an elf forum without them. In many middle eastern countries you'd probably be killed for playing such a blasphemous game.

But the left seems to think any attempt to maintain a coherent culture means you are racist. Like, no dummy, the whole point of America for instance, is that it is a melting pot founded on western enlightenment values. Immigrants are welcome to come here, legally, through the many generous systems we have in place to admit them. Nobody is asking them to give up their favorite fashion, or cuisine, or music, or religion, or anything else that makes their culture unique, we simply ask that you follow the rule of law and adhere to the project of equal rights. That means you can't sell your daughter into a forced marriage, for instance. Keep everything else, but we ask that you leave that part behind.

This is apparently highly racist... so stupid.

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The more people of the same culture your bring and put in an area, the less overal assimilation and integration you will see. What you will see instead is insulation. They culture will form a little bubble of itself, insulated against having to assimilate into the country it is residing in

Exactly. This is precisely what is happening in Europe. They were too spineless to enforce their own laws, because arresting brown immigrants makes you racist. Meanwhile many cities in the UK had rape gangs of grooming 12 and 13 year old girls, because they came from a culture where that is acceptable and never had to integrate. People are so petrified to criticize anyone seemingly who isn't white, all while completely disregarding real suffering, in the name of their own cowardice and sense of self-preservation. Hey sure those innocent kids are getting raped, but at least nobody will call me racist! Like, grow a spine.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Past studies (which will be hard as shit to find, don’t use Google lol) have shown some negative consequences to diversity. I don’t remember them all offhand, I just remember hearing about how these studies that weren’t intending to find them noticed some. The obvious ones would be the impact of forcing together cultures or especially religions that have strongly opposed viewpoints, a recipe for conflict

It’s becoming more rare, but there are countries and places with homogenous populations that are doing well

There’s obvious pro’s and con’s to everything. The problem is I can harp all day about the pro’s of diversity (which there are) but mention a con and I’m a bigot or xenophobe. So there’s no actual critical thought or analysis going on, just a one-sided echo chamber

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, one thing that I have learned is that if you want a culture you are bringing in to assimilate or integrate into your country, do it a little bit at a time. Make it a situation where this tiny group, like a single family, is surrounded by a foreign culture. This basically leaves no choice but to assimilate or integrate to some degree

The more people of the same culture you bring and put in an area, the less overal assimilation and integration you will see. What you will see instead is insulation. They culture will form a little bubble of itself, insulated against having to assimilate into the country it is residing in

I just see this as typical human behavior. I’m the same way. It’s hard as shit to learn a new language and all these new customs. If you moved me to China, but put me in a huge America city in China, I would be far less likely to learn Chinese language and customs than if you threw me by myself into the middle of a Chinese city. Humans will always pick the path of least resistance

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The idea that all cultures are equally good is one of the largest blind spots for the left. Not all cultures are created equal. Western enlightenment values are the cornerstone of everything we enjoy. We wouldn't be sitting here arguing on an elf forum without them. In many middle eastern countries you'd probably be killed for playing such a blasphemous game.

But the left seems to think any attempt to maintain a coherent culture means you are racist. Like, no dummy, the whole point of America for instance, is that it is a melting pot founded on western enlightenment values. Immigrants are welcome to come here, legally, through the many generous systems we have in place to admit them. Nobody is asking them to give up their favorite fashion, or cuisine, or music, or religion, or anything else that makes their culture unique, we simply ask that you follow the rule of law and adhere to the project of equal rights. That means you can't sell your daughter into a forced marriage, for instance. Keep everything else, but we ask that you leave that part behind.

This is apparently highly racist... so stupid.



Exactly. This is precisely what is happening in Europe. They were too spineless to enforce their own laws, because arresting brown immigrants makes you racist. Meanwhile many cities in the UK had rape gangs of grooming 12 and 13 year old girls, because they came from a culture where that is acceptable and never had to integrate. People are so petrified to criticize anyone seemingly who isn't white, all while completely disregarding real suffering, in the name of their own cowardice and sense of self-preservation. Hey sure those innocent kids are getting raped, but at least nobody will call me racist! Like, grow a spine.

Spook GF just beamed this over for you twerps

The contracting states shall not

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forcibly return or "refoul" refugees to the country they have fled from (Article 33). It is widely accepted that the prohibition of forcible return is part of customary international law. This means that even states that are not party to the 1951 Refugee Convention must respect the principle of non-refoulement. Therefore, states are obligated under the Convention and under customary international law to respect the principle of non-refoulement. If this principle is threatened, UNHCR can respond by intervening with relevant authorities and, if it deems necessary, will inform the public.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spook GF just beamed this over for you twerps

Lol from the Wikipedia “The Refugee Convention builds on Article 14 of the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which recognizes the right of persons to seek asylum from persecution in other countries”

Persecution as in what was happening to the Jews in WWII. Or the Tutsi’s in Rwanda

Persecution does not mean my country has a lot of gang activity but still less than Chicago so give me free stuff, America

Persecution does not mean my country is poor so give me a job America

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol from the Wikipedia “The Refugee Convention builds on Article 14 of the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which recognizes the right of persons to seek asylum from persecution in other countries”

Persecution as in what was happening to the Jews in WWII. Or the Tutsi’s in Rwanda

Persecution does not mean my country has a lot of gang activity but still less than Chicago so give me free stuff, America

Persecution does not mean my country is poor so give me a job America

It does until the plea is adjudicated. That's the right - to ask or apply. And no, you never can dismiss with prejudice either.

Good luck out there.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It does until the plea is adjudicated. That's the right - to ask or apply. And no, you never can dismiss with prejudice either.

Good luck out there.

Ah yes the loophole! Act like it’s all about due process while summarily releasing them into the country without any concern that 80%+ do not actually attend that due process

I would say good luck, but with that gaping loophole, you certainly don’t need it

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It does until the plea is adjudicated. That's the right - to ask or apply. And no, you never can dismiss with prejudice either.

Good luck out there.

So if they are just gaming the system it's all good

[Gravydoo II]

All these native americans talking about how diversity does not work... I trust you're all from here going back ten generations or more?? Last time I checked, we're all immigrants or descended from immigrants. Whites dont come from the Americas. The race soldiers, especially.