CoWorker said the border was at fault that non-vaxed ppl are dying

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Pulgasari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We shouldn't so easily excuse China killing our large American folks enjoying God's bounty.

Fuckin China commie bastards

[Horza]

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What the heck is a Rittenhouse stan

Stan has entered the lexicon as a term for an overly-obsessed fan of someone or something and is used colloquially to express fandom of all kinds. The origin of the term stan is often credited to the 2000 song "Stan," about an obsessed fan, by American rapper Eminem.

[Thorgrimm]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rittenhouse stans are human garbage.

He took out some pedophile trash

Rittenhouse for Prez

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stan has entered the lexicon as a term for an overly-obsessed fan of someone or something and is used colloquially to express fandom of all kinds. The origin of the term stan is often credited to the 2000 song "Stan," about an obsessed fan, by American rapper Eminem.

I am not some fan of Rittenhouse. To my knowledge from hearing a little about his case, he had a couple people gearing up to beat the shit out of him or something. Apparently you would rather he lie down like a bitch crying and let it happen. I don’t fault him for defending himself. I personally wouldn’t tote an AK or whatever he had to do that, my glock would do just fine, but that I also don’t carry anywhere, ever really. Never even shot the damn thing. So Rittenhouse and I are not that alike, other than the fact I will also go down fighting

I’m assuming the issue people have with the situation is that he was engaging in vigilantism. Same sort of situation as Zimmerman, I suppose. There was also a case I heard about, although I don’t recall the name, of a man who would take walks late at night with his dog, armed, through the worst parts of town. He saw some young adults tagging a wall with spray paint, called them out and told them to stop. They tried to jump him, so he shot one. Was acquitted in self defense. So he kept taking his walks. Ended up shooting I think 2 other delinquents who attacked him, got off on self defense again. But now the judge could tell, this was someone engaging in vigilantism, acting like a cop when he was not a cop. He was tried for it and convicted if I recall. So it is a real crime. Maybe that will happen to Rittenhouse too

[unsunghero]

One thing I don’t deny is that fact that carrying a gun emboldens people to put themselves in dangerous situations. The famous quote is, “when you are carrying a hammer, everything looks like a nail”

[Thorgrimm]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One thing I don’t deny is that fact that carrying a gun emboldens people to put themselves in dangerous situations. The famous quote is, “when you are carrying a hammer, everything looks like a nail”

To protect themselves from dangerous situations

[unsunghero]

One reality of human civilization is that if the cops ever lose control, vigilantes will take over. I saw it play out in some parts of Mexico. There were poor towns with almost no police presence, and the police that were there were corrupt. So the gangs were taking over. There was some gang with “Templar” in their name, that was extorting all businesses and killing people left and right. So honest citizens formed armed militias and began engaging the gangs. Saw it on the news. It was proof that no matter what, there are always more good people than bad

[Jibartik]

Good people are the ones that got us into this mess in the first place.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Thorgrimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To protect themselves from dangerous situations

This is so very P99 right here: we've got a mix of people living in reality, and people living in the fantasy in their head.

First, the fantasy:

Originally Posted by https://www.safewise.com/resources/guns-at-home/

A 2018 poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal found 58% of Americans agree with the statement “gun ownership does more to increase safety by allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves.”1

... and, the reality:

Originally Posted by https://www.safewise.com/resources/guns-at-home/

2014 review in the Annals of Internal Medicine concluded having a firearm in the home, even when it’s properly stored, doubles your risk of becoming a victim of homicide and triples the risk of suicide.3

But (I hear you say), who cares if someone in my family kills themself, or me? I'm magically 100% certain no one in my family will ever have a mental health issue, and guns protect me from bad guys! NRA-funded studies told me so:

Originally Posted by https://www.nap.edu/read/10881

The results, summarized in Table 5-2, suggest that respondents who use firearms are less likely to be injured and lose property than those using other modes of protection. For example, while the overall rate of injury in robbery is 30.2, only 12.8 percent of those using a firearm for self-protection were injured.

... except, that data is from self-reported studies. Why? Because the NRA got laws passed that made it difficult for neutral parties to conduct neutral studies, and then they paid for private studies that supported their view. But when you ask people to self-report, they're likely to have bias:

Originally Posted by https://www.nap.edu/read/10881

The most obvious and fundamental limitation, however, is that the data on defensive gun uses are, as described above, potentially error ridden ... if respondents, concerned about being perceived as inept, are inclined to report successful forms of resistance but conceal ineffective forms, the estimated efficacy of self-defense will be biased upward.

So to recap, there's fantasy-land, where you start by believing whatever you want to believe, and try to cherry-pick questionable data from a clearly-biased source to support that take:

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... and then there's reality, where the simple truth is that if you have a gun in your home, you're far more likely to have it kill you or a family member than a "bad guy". Here's Jon Oliver talking about the reality of what happened when Australia got stricter gun control:

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[HalflingSpergand]

Your fantasy is that its just that simple. If only people qould see things just like your everything will be great.
And your probably right, if everyone believed the same fantasy it would be smooth sailing .
That won't ever happen