Why Most VZ/TZ'ers won't survive Red99

[Tr0llb0rn]

"Scoreboard"

/walks away

[Moda]

I didn't play on VZ/TZ and only speak for myself when I say I quit because server is dead and boring and grindy and there isn't really jack shit to do @ 50 if you're not in Nihilum.

[s1ckness]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't think the average VZ/TZ'er will make it in Red99. They are use to easy power, establishing that power, and ruining your day after wards and every day after that. But with a 99 like grind. NO GM favors. Not being able to cheat or exploit- Be rest assured it probably won't happen.

stopped reading after this

[s1ckness]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rushmore could be right. I do not know what will happen but rushmore will have a better idea than most. The guild he was in, that was farming VP uncontested for a good amount of time, got shit stomped and griefed off the server and chose to just not log in rather than put up a fight. He then tried joining the guild that made his fellow guildmembers afraid to log on.

Maybe ill be a dinosaur maybe ill be the comet but either way rushmore will be the pond scum

made me lol + truth

[Beastro]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I realized the above was true, damn.

Trollborn confirmed doing ANYTHING to spout nonsense to support his "we're so good" and "it's so great playing on this box", ignored by most now. I like Harrison more, he may only know things 2nd hand, rant about crazy shit etc but at least he doesn't pull pathetic shit like this.

Welcome to 2nd biggest community POS Harrison, congratulations on your promotion. I may have to rethink my avatar/signature.

You're surprised that a nuthugger is nuthugging?

[Nirgon]

I mean it's depressing that considering a 0 population at this point (OK some people go wipe in sky and are crying for Kunark aside, fine) after a quotable mistake by the staff that this is just how this box will be. Hopefully when quite a bit of Kunark content isn't possible with the 10-15 left, ears will open and the remaining goons will wise up... maybe. The facade of "being winners" quickly fades for many of the remaining posters trolling to keep pixels over population. Others previously among them have just moved on without a word to say or posted regarding the errors of their ways.

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[Tr0llb0rn]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The facade of "being winners"

pay attention when your coach speaks:

Originally Posted by Cast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Computer, post the findings of my research

title: How to win Red99

query: /who all count
result: There are 20 players online.

query: /who all "Holocaust" count
result: There are 20 players online.

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Thank you, computer.

and you shall learn

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Cast
Computer, post the findings of my research

title: How to win Red99

query: /who all count
result: There are 20 players online.

query: /who all "Holocaust" count
result: There are 20 players online.

Post always very informative, showing the true motives of many who played on red, who now live on our forums making fun of its low population. ie to win the server, by pushing everyone else off it.

Unfortunately, that sucks for this server because its not one of those shitboxes that gets wiped every few months. Thus we lost 400 players in the first 2 to 3 months largely because of the players subscribing to this style of play.

Also informative, is the op stating:

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't think the average VZ/TZ'er will make it in Red99. They are use to easy power, establishing that power, and ruining your day after wards and every day after that. But with a 99 like grind. NO GM favors. Not being able to cheat or exploit- Be rest assured it probably won't happen.

You have to understand most VZ/TZ people are elitist. They think they are better than you! A few are. But most are not! They'' like any elitist! operate from power. Without that power they become nothing. (level 1)

If red99 comes out and any of them get behind it won't last brews.

In conclusion if the 99 population or the causal VZ/TZ'er that hate these "so called" elitist add any amount of pressure to these kids...most become cowards and fold. (I see a lot of quitting in the near future) The VZ/TZ'er might become the next dinosaur.

And I for one will miss them. They were quite the persona.

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[Galilao]

We didn't lose 400 players because of griefing you moron, we lost them because:

1. INCREDIBLE LAG opening weekend.

2. Guard assist not working.

3. Resists were fucked and melee damage was pathetic.

4. There was an enormous exploiting problem first few months of the server and it was the largest cause of players leaving, look back in the pages there is tons of threads about it in November/December.

5. Slowly all the server's most active players all joined one guild, leaving the rest of the servers guilds casual skeletons incapable of accomplishing anything.

6. After much time playing here I kinda agree with Ecoli exp loss for pvp is stupid, just spawn with no mana maybe add item loot (Not equipped gear loot).

Notice how I didn't say GM communication was an issue (Because if the rest of the problems were handled somewhat quickly people wouldn't have requested GM feedback)
or experience rate?

Above issues are what killed the server, mostly the exploiting (Rune Swords / Raid Mobs / Rechargeable Wands / Other shit most never heard about) and the lack of punishment for it.

Oh yeah and fuck Nihilum, I don't give a shit if they didn't receive a warning or not. It's obviously not cool to exploit raid mobs you shouldn't have to be told not to cheat, it should be assumed and they should have been punished. When they weren't many quit.

That is all.

[Nirgon]

@ Destin's post - yes hopefully those kinds won't come back. And if they do? Won't come back with that attitude.

Not mention many of the "box crew" of VZTZ didn't even play past lvl 10. Some that did made it to around mid 20s or mid 30s. The rest? Yes they made it and were kicking in heads in Lavastorm / Sol B.

Getting your face burned majorly by staff will cause you to "not make it" or specifically, "not want to be here" fyi. Despite acknowledging and appreciating the admission of making the mistake, it was too grevious in nature to warrant staying for most and when most went, I went with them after the repeat problem in fear.