Delay the launch... - Page 12

cd288 · #**111** 10-23-2019, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who knows maybe when have tons of people zoning from one place to another, this bug might become more problematic. Besides, you have any proof your issue was the same as mine, in effect or cause?

As another commenter has said, provide proof that this is a rampant issue affecting a bunch of people. Again, multiple people have requested a list of major frequent issues that would justify delaying the launch and you've provided two issues; one which is already fixed and another which is a minor issue that has only affected you thus far (and half of that issue exists on Blue today and it's fine).

If you think the launch needs to be delayed, provide those issues to support your argument.

larper99 · #**112** 10-23-2019, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please delay green because "WHAT IF?!?!?!?"

Exactly. It might not be perfect, so don't release. Bad bad bad.

The Green team set a goal, release on Oct 25th. Release and move on. If they put it off, they will please N users and anger M users, all while demoralizing themselves. Demoralized devs are definitely not a good thing. So, the question is, is N<M or is N>M? I have a sneaking suspicion that N is much smaller than M.

DMN · #**113** 10-23-2019, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by larper99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly. It might not be perfect, so don't release. Bad bad bad.

The Green team set a goal, release on Oct 25th. Release and move on. If they put it off, they will please N users and anger M users, all while demoralizing themselves. Demoralized devs are definitely not a good thing. So, the question is, is N<M or is N>M? I have a sneaking suspicion that N is much smaller than M.

it's seems your variables are way too simplistic. How upset will the users be when a bunch of exploits/bugs are used to permanently warp the landscape of green server's lifespan? what's worse, being upset for a week or two for something you are getting FOR FREE, or bug/exploit that ticks off everyone else for the remaining 3 or so years of greens lifespan.

Kapyong · #**114** 10-23-2019, 01:01 PM

Gday all,
I had something odd happen in Green Beta, I figured it was just me stuffing up somehow, but it's just possible it could be a bug I suppose.

I checked the bug report forum, and did not see any mention of this. I have not reported it, but I thought I'd mention it here just in case it HAS happened to someone else.

Primary Weapon DISAPPEARED for unknown reason.

I logged in yesterday and my powerful primary weapon was missing from my hand. It was not anywhere in my inventory. My other hand still had my lightstone, all other items were still present. I had logged out safely, not died.

Before it went missing I had not being fighting much - just exploring, traveling, chatting and buffing. So I don't really know how and when it disappeared.

It's remotely possible it was a bug - if this has happened to anyone else, then we should probably report it...

Kapyong

larper99 · #**115** 10-23-2019, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's seems your variables are way too simplistic. How upset will the users be when a bunch of exploits/bugs are used to permanently warp the landscape of green server's lifespan? what's worse, being upset for a week or two for something you are getting FOR FREE, or bug/exploit that ticks off everyone else for the remaining 3 or so years of greens lifespan.

Neither will have a huge impact on my life. But how happy will you be if the devs, fed up with people who demand perfection and raise every flaw to "game breaking" level, simply give up, walk away, and leave you tramping around Blue until they decide to turn off the lights?

If the bugs that people are running into exist on Blue, then it's not a Green issue but something that can be worked on after Green in released. Green seems to be about the timeline, the lighting, and the UI. They seem to have the timeline issues resolved. The lighting looks great, but if there are bugs there, they need to be fixed or people will be hating for good reason. The UI, well, it is what it is at time of release. It won't be pure classic because it CAN'T be pure classic. As long as you can interact with the UI withing hanging, crashing, or dying, its good to go.

Indicas · #**116** 10-23-2019, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Swyftfingers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're nearly twice the nerd I am.

you're crying about stuff not working right here, you won the nerd battle, most of us just want to play, but for you it has to be a shiny ball of perfect huh? dork

Fammaden · #**117** 10-23-2019, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapyong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gday all,
I had something odd happen in Green Beta, I figured it was just me stuffing up somehow, but it's just possible it could be a bug I suppose.

I checked the bug report forum, and did not see any mention of this. I have not reported it, but I thought I'd mention it here just in case it HAS happened to someone else.

Primary Weapon DISAPPEARED for unknown reason.

I logged in yesterday and my powerful primary weapon was missing from my hand. It was not anywhere in my inventory. My other hand still had my lightstone, all other items were still present. I had logged out safely, not died.

Before it went missing I had not being fighting much - just exploring, traveling, chatting and buffing. So I don't really know how and when it disappeared.

It's remotely possible it was a bug - if this has happened to anyone else, then we should probably report it...

Kapyong

Were you using one of the Kunark weapons that won't be dropping after launch? They reverted those and deleted existing ones since the most recent patch.

DMN · #**118** 10-23-2019, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by larper99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Neither will have a huge impact on my life. But how happy will you be if the devs, fed up with people who demand perfection and raise every flaw to "game breaking" level, simply give up, walk away, and leave you tramping around Blue until they decide to turn off the lights?
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Who has demanded "perfection"? Be specific. And recreating classic as best/accurate possible is rogean and co's own vision.

larper99 · #**119** 10-23-2019, 01:17 PM

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Who has demanded "perfection"? Be specific. And recreating classic as best/accurate possible is rogean and co's own vision.

Well, the OP that stated there were many game breaking issues, but doesn't tell what they are.

But, the "demand for perfection" is also how the development team perceives it. Yeah, they know its not perfect. But developers (anyone, really) start to put up walls and start to dig in their heals when people complain about little things as if they are big things. Once they perceive that the players are ungrateful, they will give up.

Hoppkins_Wytchfinder · #**120** 10-23-2019, 01:19 PM

Oh man. Let it go.