It is past time we were allowed shortie hybrids

[Danth]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're wasting your time, the TrueBelievers have embraced their false reality construction using the magic of cognitive dissonance and you will never sway them (much like political partisans irl, sadly.)

Luclin spires were fine, same sort of "wait for it, oh and then you have to make a long run besides" mechanic as the boats. The rest of Luclin expac mostly sucked tho.

Spires didn't bother me. There was a lot I hated about Luclin but the spires didn't matter to me. That being said the manner of their implementation (Nexus Scion NPCs) seemed characteristic of the increasingly lazy and greedy management EQ was falling prey to by that time. It would get worse soon enough, and I didn't stick around to see if it ever got better again.

Danth

[Nilstoniakrath]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're wasting your time, the TrueBelievers have embraced their false reality construction using the magic of cognitive dissonance and you will never sway them (much like political partisans irl, sadly.)

Luclin spires were fine, same sort of "wait for it, oh and then you have to make a long run besides" mechanic as the boats. The rest of Luclin expac mostly sucked tho.

I strongly disagree. The spires required a much shorter wait (14:59 at most) with periodic system messages alerting when the next "beam-up" would occur. The beam-up itself was instantaneous.

The boats, on the other hand, were run by a company of druids, were down at least half the time, and even when running had intervals approaching 45 minutes or more. Once on the boat, you still had more time to kill while the boat cruised along at a snail's pace.

[Daldaen]

Nexus Spires are just another flavor of boats. Limited entry and exit points, long wait times while you sit still. Druids and Wizards vastly superior.

Luclin launch for Blue would be great though. Lots of good content in that expansion, plus a lot of quality of life additions. You’d actually earn your pet window for example.

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nexus Spires are just another flavor of boats. Limited entry and exit points, long wait times while you sit still. Druids and Wizards vastly superior.

Luclin launch for Blue would be great though. Lots of good content in that expansion, plus a lot of quality of life additions. You’d actually earn your pet window for example.

I really can't believe the BS I am seeing. That is a complete disregard for the actual vision for this project and a complete spit in the face to it as well.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Deathrydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really can't believe the BS I am seeing. That is a complete disregard for the actual vision for this project and a complete spit in the face to it as well.

Just FYI, you're replying to one of the Project's most significant classic research contributors. I don't know his exact bug-filing stats, but Dald is almost certainly in the top ten list of players on this server most responsible for helping to realize "the actual vision for this project".

... even so, he's allowed to have a different opinion on the spires. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just FYI, you're replying to one of the Project's most significant classic research contributors. I don't know his exact bug-filing stats, but Dald is almost certainly in the top ten list of players on this server most responsible for realizing "the actual vision for this project".

... even so, he's allowed to have a different opinion on the spires. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right!

And I apologize to him and anyone else offended by my post. I take things a bit too seriously sometimes.

I just get upset when I see something that was worked so hard for (not by me) and then you see it being destroyed the same......exact......way it was destroyed 18 years ago. I have to keep faith in the devs that they would never soil this project like that!

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Deathrydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right!

And I apologize to him and anyone else offended by mypost. Seriously, I'm sorry and I take things a bit too seriously.

Heh, well this is a place for passionate nerds [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I certainly would put myself in that category, and I imagine Dald would do.

And if you want to hassle him ... hassle him for going and playing on live for awhile ... ew ... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Deathrydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really can't believe the BS I am seeing. That is a complete disregard for the actual vision for this project and a complete spit in the face to it as well.

It doesn't really matter man, the staff are on record that Luclin is never coming. The entire project stops at Velious, that's always been true.

But for blue any sort of custom content is potentially on the table. Which could mean some LoY themed zones, some QoL stuff from later expansions, who knows. Probably not coming any time soon but its likely for a future of blue if the whole project keeps going. But a full Luclin, not remotely likely.

I'm ok with that since now there will be green for people to have the unadulterated experience. It would be ideal to have a permanent version of green for characters to retire from and then a recycling green, but the logistics of opening another server are more than we can reasonably expect. Plus we have three plus years of the first green to get through before its a concern anyway.

[Daldaen]

My point is don’t ask for shit that happened out of era unless you want to accept all of it.

You want Cycle Target Hotkeys, accept Luclin, PoP, LoY, LDoN and GoD.

You want pet window and hybrid shorties, accept Luclin.

People picking and choosing stuff is non-sense on classic servers. There’s thousands that play here, everyone’s picks will be different and you’re never going to please everyone so the best and most logical option is to go whole hog. Accept everything in an era or accept none of it.

For the record I think Luclin and PoP stick very well into the classic game spirit though. They bring balance more in line across all classes, the PoP storyline is pretty good, it provides value of raiding and grouping across several eras of content, and when the game was becoming so large that traveling became unwieldy, PoKnowledge helps the casual player manage the new size of the game while still keeping value in Druid and Wizard ports, but not making them necessary to join groups across the continent from your current location. I’d even add LoY and LDoN to this as well. GoD is really where I think the deviation from classic begins, though it was one of the best raid expansions once it got a tuning pass IMO.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point is don’t ask for shit that happened out of era unless you want to accept all of it.

You want Cycle Target Hotkeys, accept Luclin, PoP, LoY, LDoN and GoD.

You want pet window and hybrid shorties, accept Luclin.

People picking and choosing stuff is non-sense on classic servers. There’s thousands that play here, everyone’s picks will be different and you’re never going to please everyone so the best and most logical option is to go whole hog. Accept everything in an era or accept none of it.

GoD is really where I think the deviation from classic begins, though it was one of the best raid expansions once it got a tuning pass IMO.

I agree.

I will agree to disagree with the last bit. Cohesion started falling apart with Kunark imo. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As the most recent changes have shown the real reason people play here is because it’s free and it’s a high population server with minimal boxing. People really aren’t clinging to the Velious era that much.

Some have asked for boxing, you can probably find threads/comments if you search. But yeah I have had people in game tell me the reason they play is because its free. Its a good thing the devs here, while liberal with some things, are not with others. Once you open that gate... good luck closing it!