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[ErlickBachman]

Originally Posted by bthomsen0312 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was not a single guild on live that was rotating current content.

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Quellious and the Rathe servers rotated "current content" when I played on live from 2000 to 2003. Just thought you should know.

[Kayso2]

Originally Posted by Maschenny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loramin, what is preventing smaller guilds from taking a shot at ToV? I don't understand.

I'll answer this one since the person you're asking the question of has no idea.

Nothing is preventing them from taking a shot. Your huge roster and AMs huge roster are just preventing them from having any realistic chance of sustained success.

The real question is, why would smaller guilds bother? Especially when they're competitive on other encounters where a huge force is not such a decisive advantage.

And before anyone gets all faux-fended and starts chirping, I'm not denying that both AG and AM have some of the best players on the box. They absolutely do. That's not what this is about.

[zati]

@ Loramin...I'm just a nobody but, here is my honest opinion.. isn't this server built around competition though? (no instancing) I feel like you're technically in a catch-22 here. You've stated GM's will never do that on this server.(Which is why you, and many ppl play here..?)

If they did implement instances... Some might stay, some might leave the server. Who knows. But, since we're here competition is what's left and keeps players going (high end content)

The majority of high end raiders are in AM(I seen 150 or more at a single raid)..that's like 3 guilds in 1... AG has been fielding 90 or so alone. If they were to split with proper classes divided n rotations were forced there'd be instantly 3-5 guilds instantly added to currently to the raid scene.. But wait.. we're just playing for "Content" ..Right? That'll be 6 month waiting-time for your guild to see that content. The population might diminish because of that. IDK.

If it ain't broke don't fix it is the only conclusion I can come up with. I see your points on making the server a place where "content is available to all guilds capable".. it's just the no-instances part that makes it almost impossible so you're cornered into Rotations is the solution. Then we're back at square 1

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Rizzle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you had to pick raid mobs to rotate on p99 then what would it be if its not velious content? You keep mentioning rotating but haven't suggested targets on p99. Is it only Vox/Naggy for p99?

I'm mainly referring to the rotation system that got proposed and taken down here recently, which was largely about ToV. But look if you have an argument that rotations are best for P99 in zones X and Y, but not Z, by all means make it!

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm mainly referring to the rotation system that got proposed and taken down here recently, which was largely about ToV. But look if you have an argument that rotations are best for P99 in zones X and Y, but not Z, by all means make it!

Top content shouldn’t be rotated, you could rotate Kunark and get your freebie pixels and no one would care. Tov is top content

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Top content shouldn’t be rotated, you could rotate Kunark and get your freebie pixels and no one would care. Tov is top content

WHY?

Please, stop just saying things as if they're self-evidently true: make an honest argument. I keep trying to help you:

I believe _____ is the best raid system overall for everyone on Project 1999 because _______

You can't leave the because part off (well, I mean, you can, but then you're not making an argument, you're just yelling things into space).

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WHY?

Please, stop just saying things as if they're self-evidently true: make an honest argument. I keep trying to help you:



You can't leave the because part off (well, I mean, you can, but then you're not making an argument, you're just yelling things into space).

It shouldnt be rotated because it is the best shit available to kill on p99 for the rest of its days. This is high quality, rare stuff that is as good as its gunna be. So the classic experience would be that the best loot in the game is highly sought after. It was not designed to be easy to get.

But you still have to kill the dragons , that's hard right ?
Well no, this content was defeated instantly when it came out (on p99) . So when the dragon is a glorified pinata, the guild vs guild competition is what makes the loot valuable. There is a challenge associated with it. Rotations remove the challenge and just leave you with the (what I think many would consider) tedious part of raiding is.

Its kindof hard to respond to this thread because I really dont think the topic is deep enough to warrant a huge discussion but I'm trying my best to give you an "honest" arguement.

[Gatordash]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WHY?

Please, stop just saying things as if they're self-evidently true: make an honest argument.

I like P99 because it rewards you for your time and effort spent playing more than a lot of other games. It feels pretty good getting an item after spending a ton of time on it. Putting the best equipment P99 has to offer on a rotation system means you don't have to spend all that time and effort to obtain it which lessens the reward, and therefore would make P99 worse imo. And that is why the current system we have is better than a rotation system.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Top content shouldn’t be rotated, you could rotate Kunark and get your freebie pixels and no one would care. Tov is top content

let's compromise and rotate every mob that doesnt drop a bis item

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

let's compromise and rotate every mob that doesnt drop a bis item

There are plenty of Dragons wandering around WW that are rarely killed!

Also, wasn't Vulak under a rotation agreement last year?