Classic/Vanilla WOW

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Bisonzabi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ is an incredibly original idea and not just a 3D Meridian 59 with a typical D&D campaign.

That is a good one. Had I started a few years earlier I might very well be ranting about M59. But your counter post is weak because that is what WOW was setup for and part of the reason for its massive success.

M59 wasn't a blockbuster, neither was UO, EQ, DAOC, Shadowbane, Star Wars online etc. They served a small audience and didn't really care about making everyone happy. PC gaming was never a mainstream thing, at least not during this time period. WoWs most positive traits are also what causes it to be hated by some of us, including myself.

Likewise, im sure one of the posters here is wayy oldschool and wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire because I came from the era of 3D accelerator cards.

[Bisonzabi]

Originally Posted by Mblake81 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But your counter post is weak because that is what WOW was setup for and part of the reason for its massive success.

Actually the massive success WoW endured was primarily because Blizzard already had an insanely large fanbase behind it due to success like Warcraft 1-3, Starcraft, and Diablo 1-2. It was also a game that had 5 years of development, one of which was strictly for ironing out bugs which is why it didn't have issues with player drops due to a crappy buggy launch..

M59 wasn't a blockbuster, neither was UO, EQ, DAOC, Shadowbane, Star Wars online etc. They served a small audience and didn't really care about making everyone happy.

EQ hit a peak of 500k in 2003 before declining after. That was a lot more than other MMO's at the time, though by then FFXI had already surpassed it in subscription numbers. But with others like AC, DAoC, and UO it was significantly higher. That's like saying Doom was a niche when you compare to the sales of games like Call of Duty.

WoWs most positive traits are also what causes it to be hated by some of us, including myself.

I understand that. It annoys me when people think Blizzard is doing something innovative with creating a classic server. It annoys me when people forget about the countless other MMO's that existed before WoW and think WoW created it all. Ultimately though that comes down to the pure neglect on how those companies handled their franchise IP's for them to eventually fade into obscurity. The people who ran SoE were fucking retarded and throughout the early 2000's they made bad decision after bad decision ultimately coming off as greedy, out of touch, and delusional to the point where people just didn't care nor wanted to bother with what they pushed out.

But ultimately, people liked Classic WoW. And I do remember pre-WoW a lot of EQ1 chat was talking about moving over to WoW due to travesties like GoD which left a sour taste in many peoples mouths.

[Psyborg]

I rolled Bloodsail Buccaneers (PvE-RP). RP communities tend to be enthusiastic and vibrant. The toxicity level, overall, is far less than other communities. Additionally, at some point the content in classic is going to be burned through and I will still want to find a reason to play. While I don't intend to RP, having that option available to me down the line is intriguing.

[Evia]

Originally Posted by Psyborg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I rolled Bloodsail Buccaneers (PvE-RP). RP communities tend to be enthusiastic and vibrant. The toxicity level, overall, is far less than other communities. Additionally, at some point the content in classic is going to be burned through and I will still want to find a reason to play. While I don't intend to RP, having that option available to me down the line is intriguing.

Pick Grobbulous man! Pvp RP! So you get to play the game, pvp, and maybe rp down the road! I have a small crew of 4-6 playing over there on alliance! It'll be fun!

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pick Grobbulous man! Pvp RP! So you get to play the game, pvp, and maybe rp down the road! I have a small crew of 4-6 playing over there on alliance! It'll be fun!

I've done PvP RP. It ends up being like every other PvP server with nothing special to differentiate it other than a lower population. I can honestly say that the charm of RP communities is going to be virtually non-existent on Grob. Plus it is West coast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvE-RP tends to have more structured world PvP. I'm sure you'll have a great time though!

[Bardp1999]

Very surprised at the levels of hate coming from a 30-year-old Elf Sim board. I'll give it a month or two of my money just to relive some of the magic

[Prostatus]

this is now a Meridian 59 thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keePLKXXEHA

[Mazoku]

Aren't the undead part of an expansion thus NOT in vanilla anyway? I thought vanilla did not have the undead and they were added after first expansion?

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Mazoku [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aren't the undead part of an expansion thus NOT in vanilla anyway? I thought vanilla did not have the undead and they were added after first expansion?

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[Duvain]

Originally Posted by Mazoku [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aren't the undead part of an expansion thus NOT in vanilla anyway? I thought vanilla did not have the undead and they were added after first expansion?

Undead were one of the original horde races, blood elves were added in TBC.