Joeseph Stack's Suicide Letter - Page 12

Hasbinbad · #**111** 03-10-2010, 10:59 PM

The thing is that he's using a God argument, which you cannot logically argue with because it is not a logical premise in the first place.

For instance, if I stated that I have magical powers, how would you prove me wrong?

IRS · #**112** 03-10-2010, 11:19 PM

"All men are created equal."

Wrap your brains around that dumbasses.

Ikeren · #**113** 03-11-2010, 03:36 AM

He said "Separating church and state. That's what allowed the government to shit all over everyones rights" or something along those lines. A god's existence or non-existence is irrelevant; all that's needed is a correlation of rights after the separation of church and state---easily done.

@IRS: Okay, done. What's next?

Lanor · #**114** 03-11-2010, 04:13 AM

You guys do realize you're arguing with some weirdo that joins exp groups and gets off to discussing how he's using his laptop in his kitchen while he makes microwave pad thai...

Right?

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some dumb motherfuckers up in here yo

Hasbinbad · #**115** 03-11-2010, 09:23 AM

Idiot premise #1: "God gave me my rights, prove me wrong, or I'm right and you're an idiot."

Idiot premise #2: "I can fly when nobody else is looking, prove me wrong, or I'm right and you're an idiot."

Both premises are based on the same "logic."

Finawin · #**116** 03-11-2010, 10:50 AM

Even removing the God portion of the statement, the basic premise is still there.

There's no reason to get caught up in semantics or on the simple fact its a religious statement in origin.

Ikeren · #**117** 03-11-2010, 04:43 PM

Heh, Lanor. When a group has been sitting silent for 4 hours aside from the pull messages, I get bored, try to start a conversation. Didn't realize you were annoyed; sorry. I find food is usually a good random conversation starter; everyone loves food.

Proving certain things: Hasbin is right if he specifically said that, but I think the wording was more around the premise that "Separation of church and state led to a loss of rights," and while using the language of god, that argument is still counterable, by demonstrating a correlation of rights after the separation of church and state. As I did.

That being said, I agree that god is a weak premise in a modern context.