ninja looting does not mean you make the rules

[Salty]

MM is hatin on your purse big slipp.

haters gonna hate

[KilyenaMage]

Originally Posted by Kassel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

44/60 2hs vs a 20/39 1hs.

Oggok cleaver > Blade of Abrogation

The Oggok Cleaver is also pretty damned rare if I'm not mistaken...and if there's ever a BOTB, it's probably the #1 weapon for any of the classes that can use it.

[Ledzepp02]

1.) I didn't win the item, so stop calling me a Ninja. I simply picked it up to give to the highest roller before someone ran by and snagged it.

2.) The cleric perfectly understood the rules and accepted that they didn't care about the rolls for anything that dropped (they wanted XP), this SK decided to completely ignore them when we laid them out. He could have EASILY protested early on, instead of when the shit actually dropped.

3.) I was tanking better without him, so "using" him was simply no more than waiting for a tank that was available, which is difficult at 5am PST. The entire group, including the cleric (non-fusion member), wanted him gone within the first 20 minutes. I said eh, just let him fill the last spot until we find a tank, the xp won't be affected too much save for the hybrid penalty.

4.) We were doing this because we wanted people to USE kunark items, not mark them up because its the first few days of kunark. Using a "/rand for anything" rule set seemed the most viable for this. He had a chance to win for selling/using, a few of us had a chance to win and give to someone who could use it and progress us. Thats how the system was, unchanged, for the duration of our time there. It's not fair that someone shows up wanting to change the system for their own benefit.

The point is, the rules WERE THERE, he seemed to accept them up until this item dropped, when he started to play dumb and change our system to NBG for his benefit. Hobby summed it up pretty f'in straightforward. Pay attention to the rules.

Allright guys cya later, i'm gonna go join a group of 18+ people at Fungi for 30 minutes after they've been there for over a day, and demand that the Fungi Tunic that just dropped go to me because I was there, even though the guild group kind of wanted to distribute it to someone who could probably make use of it to progress their guild... fuck that noise, I WANT IT, MEMEMEME. Do the shoes fit yet?

[Dantes]

Apparently the rules were NBG... Unless an extremely rare awesome item drops, then it's "loot that fucker and give it ya guild!"

[Walk]

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1.) I didn't win the item, so stop calling me a Ninja. I simply picked it up to give to the highest roller before someone ran by and snagged it.

2.) The cleric perfectly understood the rules and accepted that they didn't care about the rolls for anything that dropped (they wanted XP), this SK decided to completely ignore them when we laid them out. He could have EASILY protested early on, instead of when the shit actually dropped.

3.) I was tanking better without him, so "using" him was simply no more than waiting for a tank that was available, which is difficult at 5am PST. The entire group, including the cleric (non-fusion member), wanted him gone within the first 20 minutes. I said eh, just let him fill the last spot until we find a tank, the xp won't be affected too much save for the hybrid penalty.

4.) We were doing this because we wanted people to USE kunark items, not mark them up because its the first few days of kunark. Using a "/rand for anything" rule set seemed the most viable for this. He had a chance to win for selling/using, a few of us had a chance to win and give to someone who could use it and progress us. Thats how the system was, unchanged, for the duration of our time there. It's not fair that someone shows up wanting to change the system for their own benefit.

The point is, the rules WERE THERE, he seemed to accept them up until this item dropped, when he started to play dumb and change our system to NBG for his benefit. Hobby summed it up pretty f'in straightforward. Pay attention to the rules.

Allright guys cya later, i'm gonna go join a group of 18+ people at Fungi for 30 minutes after they've been there for over a day, and demand that the Fungi Tunic that just dropped go to me because I was there, even though the guild group kind of wanted to distribute it to someone who could probably make use of it to progress their guild... fuck that noise, I WANT IT, MEMEMEME. Do the shoes fit yet?

you were that piece of shit that was trying to ruin my necro big sifilous's immersion on p99 in west commonlands, you are a real piece of work sir, please stop trying to justify youself you were wrong, now why dont u do something productive like make it right?

[Salty]

i'm gonna go join a group of 18+ people at Fungi for 30 minutes after they've been there for over a day, and demand that the Fungi Tunic that just dropped go to me because I was there, even though the guild group kind of wanted to distribute it to someone who could probably make use of it to progress their guild... fuck that noise, I WANT IT, MEMEMEME. Do the shoes fit yet?

Guild dictates rules on raids. How does that correlate to grouping?

[dredge]

Allright guys cya later, i'm gonna go join a group of 18+ people at Fungi for 30 minutes after they've been there for over a day, and demand that the Fungi Tunic that just dropped go to me because I was there, even though the guild group kind of wanted to distribute it to someone who could probably make use of it to progress their guild... fuck that noise, I WANT IT, MEMEMEME. Do the shoes fit yet?[/QUOTE]

God, you just don't get it do you?
It's like your playing a different game then the rest of us, is this how it works in WOW world?

[casdegere]

Originally Posted by Salty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guild dictates rules on raids. How does that correlate to grouping?

Whatever makes him sound reasonable and honest, that's what. I guess this cleaver or whatever it is, is worth his reputation.

[Ledzepp02]

Originally Posted by Salty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guild dictates rules on raids. How does that correlate to grouping?

The mob in question was pulled from VS's room. Case closed. We were raiding. But seriously, the rules were blatantly obvious immediately after he joined. It's not my fault if he did not question the rules when they were laid out. He chose to ignore them until something for him dropped.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1.) I didn't win the item, so stop calling me a Ninja. I simply picked it up to give to the highest roller before someone ran by and snagged it.

2.) The cleric perfectly understood the rules and accepted that they didn't care about the rolls for anything that dropped (they wanted XP), this SK decided to completely ignore them when we laid them out. He could have EASILY protested early on, instead of when the shit actually dropped.

3.) I was tanking better without him, so "using" him was simply no more than waiting for a tank that was available, which is difficult at 5am PST. The entire group, including the cleric (non-fusion member), wanted him gone within the first 20 minutes. I said eh, just let him fill the last spot until we find a tank, the xp won't be affected too much save for the hybrid penalty.

4.) We were doing this because we wanted people to USE kunark items, not mark them up because its the first few days of kunark. Using a "/rand for anything" rule set seemed the most viable for this. He had a chance to win for selling/using, a few of us had a chance to win and give to someone who could use it and progress us. Thats how the system was, unchanged, for the duration of our time there. It's not fair that someone shows up wanting to change the system for their own benefit.

The point is, the rules WERE THERE, he seemed to accept them up until this item dropped, when he started to play dumb and change our system to NBG for his benefit. Hobby summed it up pretty f'in straightforward. Pay attention to the rules.

Allright guys cya later, i'm gonna go join a group of 18+ people at Fungi for 30 minutes after they've been there for over a day, and demand that the Fungi Tunic that just dropped go to me because I was there, even though the guild group kind of wanted to distribute it to someone who could probably make use of it to progress their guild... fuck that noise, I WANT IT, MEMEMEME. Do the shoes fit yet?

Let me know if I understand this correctly:
Item drops, everyone rolls, he does a joke roll at first (which while stupid, in no way is is forfeiting their right to a roll, or did you specify that at the start, incorrect rolls are a forfeit?) and so then a minute later, he rolls the highest roll, but you yourself decided too much time had passed and he was no longer eligible?

That's all that matters. Whether he was a good or bad tank is beyond irrelevant (unless of course the loot rules you laid out beforehand specified performance based loot awards)?