Scout's an absolute joke. So let's change the "rules"

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

55 is very reasonable

[JackofSpade]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What we don't need at scout is a bureaucracy. An agreed upon lvl min and required no-role or anon toons where winning toon must loot the disk, would be enough to declutter the scout roll.

Not sure how my suggestion would constitute a bureaucracy, it is a player enforced meritocracy where those who have put in the most time are at the top of the list. All I was suggesting in regards to staff involvement is an extremely harsh punishment for cheaters who try to manipulate attendance logs.

[icedwards]

All elves are equal, but some elves are more equal than others.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by JackofSpade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Making sure attendance was tracked honestly would obviously be the most difficult part of this type of system but if enough people were in favor of something like that I am sure it could be worked out to make cheating very very difficult. And if staff was behind the idea a permanent account ban if caught manipulating would make for an excellent deterrent.

Originally Posted by JackofSpade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure how my suggestion would constitute a bureaucracy, it is a player enforced meritocracy where those who have put in the most time are at the top of the list. All I was suggesting in regards to staff involvement is an extremely harsh punishment for cheaters who try to manipulate attendance logs.

You're clearly new or newish to the high-end P99 scene, and so you're naturally (not blaming you) unaware of the history of agreements and interactions between end-game players here.

But rather than give you an oral history of P99 ("in my day TMO ran this server, and I had to walk uphill in the snow, both ways, to get to a raid ...") instead just take it from someone with too high of a post count: what you're describing will never work here, and threats of bans from the staff will not stop people from trying to cheat. Just as importantly, the staff do not have the time to police a player agreement by monitoring a ledger that changes three times a day to make sure no one cheats.

Any solution to any problem on P99 needs to be heavily optimized towards being as little effort as possible on everyone's part (both the staff and players), and must be clear and transparently fair despite said optimization. "Everyone must roll": doable. "Everyone must be 55 (or 56 or whatever) to roll": also doable. Anything that involves tracking a 3/day event with an honest ledger maintained by multiple players that the staff monitors to ensure stays honest: never going to happen.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're clearly new or newish to the high-end P99 scene, and so you're naturally (not blaming you) unaware of the history of agreements and interactions between end-game players here.

drain the swamp

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

drain the swamp

Green 2020! Green 2020! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Erati]

New P99 forum drinking game - each time Loramin makes a post that has the words "Green Server" or "Green99" - you must take a shot or do your drugs.

[remen]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Setting the min to 56 would reward people who have put even more time into their char and would make the pool of rollers smaller still.

I picked 55 arbitrarily thinking it is a nice reward for getting through the hell level of 54. Plus, if someone has finished the grind through 54 they are pretty dedicated to that character and it's less likely the item will sit on some unplayed / barely played alt. Also, 55 is the speed limit on a lot of roads.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

New P99 forum drinking game - each time Loramin makes a post that has the words "Green Server" or "Green99" - you must take a shot or do your drugs.

Moving on from slaying dragons to slaying players I see, Tani? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[snyder43]

Originally Posted by remen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I picked 55 arbitrarily thinking it is a nice reward for getting through the hell level of 54. Plus, if someone has finished the grind through 54 they are pretty dedicated to that character and it's less likely the item will sit on some unplayed / barely played alt. Also, 55 is the speed limit on a lot of roads.

Why hasn't someone made this into a poll yet? I expect that it will fail, but whatever.