Raiding Guild Behavior

[Culkasi]

Pretty tired of you idiots slanting CSG and putting us in same basket as AA. We have never played the same game as them (think our first ever raid petition is in the works atm), we've, unlike you, never poopsocked Fear golems on their temples, we generally always try to look out for everyones best interest. I know you've never liked us since we had disputes about Sky day, but this is getting out of hand, and you are really not giving me more interest in working with you but less. Also what Getsome says is correct, also, bear in mind, all these mobs had to die quick so we got this second round that is, as you will agree, very fairly distributed, before AA comes back from vacation.

[paroxysmal]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty tired of you idiots slanting CSG and putting us in same basket as AA. We have never played the same game as them (think our first ever raid petition is in the works atm), we've, unlike you, never poopsocked Fear golems on their temples, we generally always try to look out for everyones best interest. I know you've never liked us since we had disputes about Sky day, but this is getting out of hand, and you are really not giving me more interest in working with you but less. Also what Getsome says is correct, also, bear in mind, all these mobs had to die quick so we got this second round that is, as you will agree, very fairly distributed, before AA comes back from vacation.

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who ask their guilds to spend 8-10-12 hours poopsocking golems in Fear can't really claim to have a moral upper hand here....all we do is race for shit in our prime time, and then kill it - we don't WANT to race, but thats the playground staff has created for us, and we can either play in it, or make the smarter choice that BDA and Nemce has made

Rustle: Avg raid size (9-70?)
Yelinak (w/ Anon)
Silverwing
Phara Dar
Gozzrem
Gorenaire
Lord Koi
Draco
Naggy
Druushk
Statue/AoW (w/ Anon)
Zlandi
Dagarn (w/ Anon)
Jorlleag (w/ Anon)
Lady N (w/ Anon)
Zlexak (w/ Anon)
Vulak

CSG: Avg Raid Size (70-120?)
King Tormax
Vox
LTK
Dozekar
Hoshkar
CT+friends
Dain
Klandi
Lady M
Lord Kreiz
Lord Vyemm
Sev (w/ Infernus?)

Anon: Avg Raid Size (20-40)
Statue/AoW (w/ Rustle)
Yelinak (w/ Rustle)
Dagarn (w/ Rustle)
Jorlleag (w/ Rustle)
Lady N (w/ Rustle)
Zlexak (w/ Rustle)
Telkorenar
One Fear Golem (Fright?)

Infernus: Avg Raid Size (unsure)
Eashen
VS
Sev (w/ CSG?)

F/V: Avg Raid Size (40-80)
Aaryonar
Cekenar
Faydedar
Xygoz
Trakanon
Talendor

Just to give everyone some perspective about the mob distribution on the first cycle of this suspension. These are just the ones I know of and there may be mistakes.

Culkasi I am sorry we have had issues in the past and that CSG in particular has unrelenting issue with fear golem socks. I have also told you that we would be more than happy to rotate golems if a rotation could be worked out. I have tried my best in my post to give an accurate picture. If some of the details are off please let me know. Additionally, I think we are all frustrated by the limitations of the server and respond poorly to people who should be our friends in any other circumstance. Personally, I am looking forward to giving Agnarr a try when it comes out. I know already there will be some differences, however, I think that a lot of the frustrations we run into here will not be an issue there. We have never been interested in racing for content, as that was not the same on classic as it is here, just doing the content itself.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by paroxysmal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rustle: Avg raid size (9-70?)

9+70/2 = 79 / 2 = 39.5

Said Cecily helpfully.

[deezy]

Originally Posted by paroxysmal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rustle: Avg raid size (9-70?)
Yelinak (w/ Anon)
Silverwing
Phara Dar
Gozzrem
Gorenaire
Lord Koi
Draco
Naggy
Druushk
Statue/AoW (w/ Anon)
Zlandi
Dagarn (w/ Anon)
Jorlleag (w/ Anon)
Lady N (w/ Anon)
Zlexak (w/ Anon)
Vulak

Just to give everyone some perspective about the mob distribution on the first cycle of this suspension. These are just the ones I know of and there may be mistakes.

To correct mistakes and add clarity

day 1 - No Agreement in place
Lord Yelinak (With Anonymous)
*Silverwing
*Phara Dar
*Gorenaire

day 2 - Agreement reached in the morning slightly after midnight
*Gozzrem
*Lord Koi'Doken
Statue/Avatar (With Anonymous)
*Dracoliche
*Lord Nagafen
*Druushk

day 3
*Zlandicar
**Zlexak (With Anonymous)
**Jorlleag (With Anonymous)
**Lady Nevederia (With Anonymous)
Vulak'Aerr

* Not listed in the agreement - FTE Mob
** No contest allotment time expired
Rustle had no involvement on Dagarn the Destroyer

[Legday]

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[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Kluwen1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gezz lol, kind of feels like CSG and Rustle have some sort of hidden agenda with that mob distribution. Talk about getting the scraps! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come on. You'd shit a brick if you gave F/v 24 hours in ToV with almost everything up xD

They had their shot to to clear, our kill list is only how it is because mobs were failed to be killed. So in theory if Foh and ven was ready for ToV their list would of actually been beefy.

And qani wtf man. You want equal footing when you're just fear golem poopers. stop crying like you didn't have a legit fair shot to get way more than you listed. In the end once the suspension is done you're such a non factor to be making wild claims.

Its sad that you're making me want a/a back so you can retreat Frights tower

[wrighter00]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty tired of you idiots slanting CSG and putting us in same basket as AA. We have never played the same game as them (think our first ever raid petition is in the works atm), we've, unlike you, never poopsocked Fear golems on their temples, we generally always try to look out for everyones best interest. I know you've never liked us since we had disputes about Sky day, but this is getting out of hand, and you are really not giving me more interest in working with you but less. Also what Getsome says is correct, also, bear in mind, all these mobs had to die quick so we got this second round that is, as you will agree, very fairly distributed, before AA comes back from vacation.

I'm not slanting CSG. Certainly not Europa or Omni. Never met anyone from those guilds who did anything questionable. There was never any hostility or bitterness about Sky towards Europa. We didn't understand why Islands weren't up when we got there for our time, and you told us. No one was ever pissed. We just realized that the Monday PM slot is kinda jacked for any American guilds and worked around it. We never looked at you in bad light.

My comment on the rule set was plain and simple. As long as people play into it, it's going to be real. Currently that list of guilds play into it. I don't care how you guys engaged KT, and I didn't stay to race you for him. That's what I'm saying. GG on the kill. As long as Awakened and Aftermath keep petitioning each other like children "telling mom", and Rustle keeps claiming that racing = godliness we're all stuck with this bs. I've read enough posts about how the server got to be this way. People who are putting way too much into a game that they seemingly think is harder and more competative than it is.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by wrighter00 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not slanting CSG. Certainly not Europa or Omni. Never met anyone from those guilds who did anything questionable. There was never any hostility or bitterness about Sky towards Europa. We didn't understand why Islands weren't up when we got there for our time, and you told us.

That's not how it played out. Personally didnt get hostility but there was bitterness, atleast that was how it came across, and a level of coercion to try to get us to change our scheduled sky day that we have had for many years with no complaints. At the time we weren't even doing it every week!

[wrighter00]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not how it played out. Personally didnt get hostility but there was bitterness, atleast that was how it came across, and a level of coercion to try to get us to change our scheduled sky day that we have had for many years with no complaints. At the time we weren't even doing it every week!

This is me trying to tell you how people in Fires ended up looking at it. Hopefully that clears up any ideas some of you may have about how we view you. From my viewpoint then, that was just another issue of people wanting agreements for some things, but demanding people follow the rules other times. With the raid scene being the way it was as we moved into it, and realizing the number of snipes, leap frogs, and petitions, we thought people were needing to stick soley to the rules. According to the rules, no one should be mad if random people show up in Sky on random nights. It doesn't seem like this server is happy either way.

Other than that, I can't think of any issues other than what CSG thinks about our Golem farming... and that's just meh. I've brought the idea up to Fires about Conceding a worthy (visable SK sword or something) to CSG in good faith. TBH, though, Fires would probably never get that respect from anyone. Thus it's hard to convince people to give it.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by wrighter00 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is me trying to tell you how people in Fires ended up looking at it. Hopefully that clears up any ideas some of you may have about how we view you. From my viewpoint then, that was just another issue of people wanting agreements for some things, but demanding people follow the rules other times. With the raid scene being the way it was as we moved into it, and realizing the number of snipes, leap frogs, and petitions, we thought people were needing to stick soley to the rules. According to the rules, no one should be mad if random people show up in Sky on random nights. It doesn't seem like this server is happy either way.

Don't think I really need to go into why isle 1 at the very least on sky often has nothing up, anything else beyond that is against the rotation imo. It's certainly not something Europa has ever done, can't speak for other guilds.

The way I looked at what happened was a view into the minds of FoH leadership. Wasn't particulary classy.