Why do Awakened members even stay?

[Fragged]

Originally Posted by Gafador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Phinny isn't worth it as the expansions come out way too fast. Plus it's already at PoP, so beginning of the end. I'm looking forward to trying the new progression server Daybreak is talking about releasing this summer though.

Do tell.

[Mistle]

Originally Posted by bigbard1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Expansions came out 2 a year. They come out 4 now and means less time in shitty as fuck xpacs like DoN.

It was funny watching the history of the second try at progression servers unfold.

Fippy was the first (I'm not counting the 2007 ones, they were a different story). On this server you had to beat the content to open a vote for the launching next expansion. Fippy was super popular, so much so that a second server was opened (Vulak). This was back in 2011 so p99 hadn't achieved the legendary status (or notoriety) it has now. People WANTED a nostalgia server and this was finally their chance. And the evolution of the server really showed this. 9 days to complete vanilla, 13 to complete kunark, 16 for velious, 13 for luclin. I don't know what the completion dates were after this. It got funny after that. As I said, the progression servers were seen as nostalgia trips for most the players. Not many players felt any nostalgia for GoD, and the vote to open it failed repeatedly, especially thanks to the poor behavior of the raiding guilds at the time talking down to the more casual people who wanted to experience their nostalgia as long as they could (sound familiar?). It did eventually pass, and from then on the population hit the shits, first raiding guilds leaving because of the stonewall, then everyone else leaving because the vote succeeded and it was no longer nostalgic EQ. The server still exists, but by 2015 there are posts mentioning that there were zero people in the bazaar (note: Takp, which currently tops out just over 200 people, normally has around 35 bazaar traders for comparison), and its only slightly behind the Live servers in progression.

The overflow server from Fippy was called Vulak. This server is dead. The casuals left with the death of nostalgia and there wasn't enough people to feed the few raiding guilds left enough people to maintain their rosters. Posts as far back as the beginning of 2014 were complaining that the server no longer had a population large enough to advance. It somehow managed to stagger its way to SoD on the backs of one terribad guild, but they are gone and no one expects Vulak to ever advance further. Any hope in 2015 was ended by Ragefire and Lockjaw.

Four years after Fippy was Ragefire and Lockjaw soon after. The main difference with these servers was a nod to those who wanted slower releases of expansions (basically the casuals who wanted to maintain the nostalgia factor as long as possible). They have six month unlock timers. Or, they did at first. This is changing as the nostalgia population quits. Both of them are as far as I know still in Luclin for a while yet, but having learned from previous history, DBG is increasing the expansion rate to 3 months after PoP, since the nostalgia casuals will quit then and Vulak proved the raiders won't stay if the progression is too slow. Notable about these servers was the failure to address the extreme power disparity between classic content and modern class balance; the servers were notorious for botted mage armies camping literally everything in the game.

And now the much faster moving Phinny, obviously aimed at the raiding population, with no votes that hamstrung earlier server progression. Instancing to prevent cockblocking, only "trueboxing" allowed.

Sometime this year there will be another progression server (basically already confirmed). Smart money is it will be after Phinny hits GoD and the same casual population collapse that hit Fippy and Vulak strikes; the new progression server will pick them up.

[Pokesan]

some good bda spin in here

[Lazie]

I just remember running through Kael otw to SS thinking...


"Man what poor leadership going for Kael raid mobs and subjecting your guild to all those trains because everyone will go after those first"

[Lazie]

The part where it was trained to WL and aggroing everyone there while I was finishing the CS key was truly the story of the day. Heck I think both Rampage and Forsaken had their entire guild in Western Wastes by the time that mob finally died.

[RedXIII]

Wtf... i am in those FTE logs... you fucking trained me chest? how dare you!

[Fasttimes]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wtf... i am in those FTE logs... you fucking trained me chest? how dare you!

clearly this is because your brazilian i would file a complain at once.

[Fasttimes]

you are* before someone says that

[Cecily]

[Sun Aug 02 20:32:40 2015] Cadus tells the guild, 'king tormax fte!'
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:18 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:18 2015] King Tormax engages Wissen!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:21 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:21 2015] King Tormax engages Spudsly!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:25 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:25 2015] King Tormax engages Nissmo!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:28 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:28 2015] King Tormax engages Redwiz!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:31 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:31 2015] King Tormax engages Mikeo!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:36 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:36 2015] King Tormax engages Torgor!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:47 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:47 2015] King Tormax engages Terton!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:57 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:41:57 2015] King Tormax engages Necrious!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:03 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:03 2015] King Tormax engages Udabut!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:05 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:05 2015] King Tormax engages Auvdar!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:08 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:08 2015] King Tormax engages Capi!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:13 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:13 2015] King Tormax engages Sinko!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:17 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:17 2015] King Tormax engages Siynful!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:19 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:19 2015] King Tormax engages Spudsly!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:24 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:24 2015] King Tormax engages Fountree!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:27 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:27 2015] King Tormax engages Ninik!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:34 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:34 2015] King Tormax engages Taminy!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:43 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:43 2015] King Tormax engages Whitewing!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:44 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:44 2015] King Tormax engages Necrious!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:46 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:46 2015] King Tormax engages Nissmo!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:50 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:50 2015] King Tormax engages Ashworth!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:53 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:53 2015] King Tormax engages Laphi!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:54 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:54 2015] King Tormax engages Leshroc!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:59 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:59 2015] King Tormax engages Hyjal!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:59 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:42:59 2015] King Tormax engages Zaftig!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:07 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:07 2015] King Tormax engages Talsabis!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:12 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:12 2015] King Tormax engages Oroton!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:31 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:31 2015] King Tormax engages Armistead!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:46 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:46 2015] King Tormax engages Chest!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:54 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:54 2015] King Tormax engages Syzzurp!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:58 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:43:58 2015] King Tormax engages Whackin!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:19 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:19 2015] King Tormax engages Chest!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:26 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:26 2015] King Tormax engages Shimufukahale!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:28 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:28 2015] King Tormax engages Heelan!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:31 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:31 2015] King Tormax engages Carnifaux!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:32 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:32 2015] King Tormax engages Heil!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:37 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:37 2015] King Tormax engages Impact!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:39 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:39 2015] King Tormax engages Aerendel!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:41 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:41 2015] King Tormax engages Fingon!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:42 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:42 2015] King Tormax engages Slowdown!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:43 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:43 2015] King Tormax engages Ongen!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:46 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:46 2015] King Tormax engages Wyntir!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:47 2015] King Tormax hits YOU for 480 points of damage.
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:47 2015] King Tormax hits YOU for 600 points of damage.
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:47 2015] King Tormax hits YOU for 600 points of damage.
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:47 2015] You have been slain by King Tormax!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:47 2015] King Tormax says, 'I will bring more glory to the city of Kael Drakkel!'
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:47 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:47 2015] King Tormax engages Downstairs!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:51 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:44:51 2015] King Tormax engages Snozeberry!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:08 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:08 2015] King Tormax engages Spudsly!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:22 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:22 2015] King Tormax engages Bustamove!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:26 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:26 2015] King Tormax engages Mallain!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:31 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:31 2015] King Tormax engages Bueller!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:38 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:38 2015] King Tormax engages Sasamie!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:42 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:42 2015] King Tormax engages Xeshan!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:46 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:46 2015] King Tormax engages Nurbuk!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:48 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:48 2015] King Tormax engages Parliement!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:49 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:49 2015] King Tormax engages Lazie!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:52 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:45:52 2015] King Tormax engages Labatts!
[Sun Aug 02 20:48:35 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:48:35 2015] King Tormax engages Saealorn!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:03 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:03 2015] King Tormax engages Lazie!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:07 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:07 2015] King Tormax engages Swage!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:19 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:19 2015] King Tormax engages Sanluen!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:24 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:24 2015] King Tormax engages Flexxo!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:29 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:29 2015] King Tormax engages Trollolololol!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:31 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:31 2015] King Tormax engages Hawt!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:35 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:35 2015] King Tormax engages Blackhart!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:36 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:36 2015] King Tormax engages Litchking!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:37 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:37 2015] King Tormax engages Ongen!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:39 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:39 2015] King Tormax engages Dannyl!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:40 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:40 2015] King Tormax engages Arantir!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:43 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:43 2015] King Tormax engages Badb!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:44 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:44 2015] King Tormax engages Quean!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:48 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:48 2015] King Tormax engages Kets!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:54 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:54 2015] King Tormax engages Redwiz!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:59 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:50:59 2015] King Tormax engages Blaza!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:05 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:05 2015] King Tormax engages Oventoasty!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:10 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:10 2015] King Tormax engages Dexs!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:11 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:11 2015] King Tormax engages Xerical!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:35 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:35 2015] King Tormax engages Wyntir!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:36 2015] King Tormax hits YOU for 600 points of damage.
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:36 2015] King Tormax tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:36 2015] King Tormax tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:36 2015] King Tormax hits YOU for 600 points of damage.
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:36 2015] You have been slain by King Tormax!
[Sun Aug 02 20:51:36 2015] King Tormax says, 'I will bring more glory to the city of Kael Drakkel!'
[Sun Aug 02 20:52:46 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:52:46 2015] King Tormax engages Litchking!
[Sun Aug 02 20:53:14 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:53:14 2015] King Tormax engages Carr!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:04 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:04 2015] King Tormax engages Kegir!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:10 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:10 2015] King Tormax engages Leezaard!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:13 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:13 2015] King Tormax engages Senies!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:35 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:35 2015] King Tormax engages Aabaddon!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:48 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:48 2015] King Tormax engages Dendol!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:56 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:54:56 2015] King Tormax engages Slydexx!
[Sun Aug 02 20:55:09 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:55:09 2015] King Tormax engages Bierp!
[Sun Aug 02 20:55:13 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:55:13 2015] King Tormax engages Foxtrotuniform!
[Sun Aug 02 20:55:45 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:55:45 2015] King Tormax engages Aabaddon!
[Sun Aug 02 20:55:52 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:55:52 2015] King Tormax engages Aabaddon!
[Sun Aug 02 20:56:04 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:56:04 2015] King Tormax engages Sasamie!
[Sun Aug 02 20:56:11 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:56:11 2015] King Tormax engages Bierp!
[Sun Aug 02 20:56:17 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:56:17 2015] King Tormax engages Beckoning!
[Sun Aug 02 20:56:37 2015] King Tormax shouts, 'Those who raise arms against me will suffer my wrath!
[Sun Aug 02 20:56:37 2015] King Tormax engages Kiixx!
[Sun Aug 02 20:57:10 2015] Cadus tells the guild, 'there goes king tormax to WL zone'

[Mistle]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sun Aug 02 20:42:59 2015] King Tormax engages Hyjal!

Sirken probably investigating, 10 day ban inc