Skip the lines, its time to try RED

[Deillon]

Originally Posted by syztem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I login once or twice a day to red, only to find /w all count around 14-20. occasionally you will see 60 if apex is attempting a raid. The primary reason Tune is trying to recruit on red and get more players is the guild is basically dead. The rest of the server has combined to stop them from doing 80% of the available content, they tried to lash out and take old dragons like sev/fay and PD etc to cut off the other guild to no avail(they have lost PD every time)

It is true they all have alts geared with ToV loot, some with primal too. But you won't ever have that gear, You will be talked into boxing a cleric they already own while playing a rogue or something they need on raids. They have a bunch of geared toons they give out access to for members to risk boxing so they can get pixels. As of the last 3-4 months they have been starved out of top end vulak pixels, cannot kill AoW let alone tunare(not even klandi or zlandi!!). They are desperate to get anyone they can to come cuck for them for a bunch of loot they would be letting rot or put on alt #10 any way.

Red is simple, if you aren't 60 and already decked you either hide and login only for raids in apex, sit around for hours while your pulls get screwed up and your clerics die to PVP before raid is called and you realize your just getting dkp to spend on kunark/classic mobs. If you are even lucky enough to get any help doing scout, factioning, farming quest armor or whatever with no strings attached other then guildies helping out you are super lucky.

You will never be inner circle <Apex> so you will always be looked down upon, and loot will go to core alts before you because there is such high paranoia on red mainly in Apex officer/leadership that they have kicked multiple people this month simply because they were thought to be spying. (who needs to spy on a dead server when basically everyone has a friend in each guild and knows whats going on?)

Cold hard facts starting on red, even with apex help:

You will have no one to play with until 8pm EST raid time, so if you arent 46+ or probably 58+ they might not even let you raid)

There is no one to talk to in game, every camp is empty. Feel free to solo PoM or your entire VP key 24/7 while being killed by your own guild mates on untagged alts.

Could go on and on, red is dead. Do not join the red server, you will not find what you are looking for, not even quick easy pixels as promised by OP.

Drugs

This poster is mad that he ninja looted a manarobe and got kicked out of Apex. He has been trying to slander/grief Apex ever since.

[syztem]

Originally Posted by Deillon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Drugs

This poster is mad that he ninja looted a manarobe and got kicked out of Apex. He has been trying to slander/grief Apex ever since.

Note, manna robes are roughly 15k plat on red server. I had 800k plat at the time, Above apex member is just mad I speak the truth. Manna robe sat for a week while I was unable to login, upon getting back on the guild leader @OP asked me if I had the manna robe. I jokingly did a /me does not have a <manna robe link> on him within minutes as we gathered to slay the mystical dragon that harasses the othmirs of cobalt scar.

He was already in full mental break down/anti spy mode at this time, and had never lead a serious raid guild. So he totally over looked the fact I did multiple Manna Robe links in emote, say, group and shout. I gave it to a warrior at the raid to pass to him when they ran off to do scout. TLDR: gave manna robe to another guildmate, not sure if it ever made it to the guild bank. but they blackhole stuff all the time worth more then 10-15k plat.

Truth about what happened: I was fully geared from the previous guild who woke reds sleeper and had my primal and most of the loot I needed minus 2-3 pieces. One piece, vulak dagger that it took 8 months from the date of removal for the guild to get, that quoted poster has(he wanted me out of the way for competition he had primal but shitty gear so I would've had 10x the DKP he did by time the good loots dropped and he would have taken aback seat for a while) Lots of the officers, and majority of the guild that made up the full time players didn't like me. As such they were the former resistance, they farmed lodizal and VP for months after I left their guild on bad terms to join the glorious <Empire> and get showered in pixels.

Upon gaining loots such as primal, kromzek crown, dain belt and numerous other items. It only made their hatred grow more and more. So finally when we were all guilded back together again, obviously its a small server and toxic people stay toxic. I was the top dps rogue in the guild, and usually did DPS equal to 4-5 of their rogues. So I got a solo kill on a golem in Fear while an --OFFICER-- gave me his AoN to click before hand.

After linking the crappy loot the golem dropped, one hater screamed out in teamspeak "HES A SKELETON LOOK AT HIM, AON DROPPED HES FUCKING TRYING TO NINJA LOOT IT" to which officers said "ok guys calm down, we will petition a GM and check what loot dropped now kill him". I managed to pull my epic at 1% and avoid the embarrassment of YT. Only to be sent a tell after they realized again, I did majority of the dps and was still holding numerous droppable loots they wanted back including the officers AoN(yes an officer of the guild and one other basically set this all up for kicks) but guild was so high strung over loot at the time even after my removal, they lost 3-4 more prime raiders over AoNs before declaring it a DKP item not officer awarded

Mind you this guilds policy was Tabula Rasa, everything done in the past was forgotten(i knew a week into joining it wasn't because of the grudges people still harbored but this is how red is mind you) So basically over some 10k plat item and an AoN freakout they did the best thing by guild removing me. As I joined another guild that raided casually, hung out and did stuff together whenever we wanted with no schedules. After about 5 months of never seeing <Apex> outside of ToV and together in 60 man raids. Once they had full gear + primals, they finally started showing their faces to try and pvp on these decked out toons(OP 60 SK, dozekar/vulak loot(s) and more, still terrible cant kill anyone). Quoted poster, vulak dagger near bis velious still gets dunked by a kunark geared mithril rogue makes excuses.

Spend 7-8 months of raiding dkp to get 3 pieces of loot(I was 100% RA in every raid guild ive been in since I have no life), I was gladly ready to re-raid velious and help teach this content after beating it all in my previous guild. Super happy I was forced to leave and then sit and watch as they struggled over the easiest of raids. 7 months down the line I would have had to wait for vulak loot. Mind you, with 33 people and most of their dps with primal they still wiped in VP to PD, SW, even druushk somehow.

So my epic tale of red, Yeah its dead except to the existing players with 60s. Don't come and join apex. If you are even thinking or wanting to try to play red, Go look up Thunderdome. You will enjoy the server more, not be voice tested + IP checked numerous times to see if anyone recognizes your voice or IP as a spy as in Apex. VPNs = auto kick. Who knows they may even require you to submit a photo ID and proof of address with some utility bills now to prevent spies.

I should add, Tune originally made a post about a blue xfer named Hekktor. Who he dubbed "best blue transfer ever, 1-60 in a week bla bla bla) dude got his sleepers key, decked out. Now tune 'owns' the account, Hekktor was fake to begin with. Never existed. Tunes 100% RA rogue "Hekktor" was Tune boxing as a new app to get more loot and propaganda. He also 'inherited' many other accounts, including Ferel(60 cleric he told the guild NEEDED to be BIS velious geared to help heal the guild, getting gear dkp free while spending dkp on his SK to PVP, something a few of the officers caught on and did to get double item loots one free one paid) PS he charge backed Ferel for $750 afterwards.

tldr x2: RED IS DEAD, CHECK THE NUMBERS, LOGIN READ OOC IF MUST. RUN OVER TO STORMFEATHER AND FIND HIM UP 75% OF THE TIME.

end wall of text. Grats Apex on vulak! not.

[Symbioticforks]

Originally Posted by syztem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Note, manna robes are roughly 15k plat on red server. I had 800k plat at the time, Above apex member is just mad I speak the truth. Manna robe sat for a week while I was unable to login, upon getting back on the guild leader @OP asked me if I had the manna robe. I jokingly did a /me does not have a <manna robe link> on him within minutes as we gathered to slay the mystical dragon that harasses the othmirs of cobalt scar.

He was already in full mental break down/anti spy mode at this time, and had never lead a serious raid guild. So he totally over looked the fact I did multiple Manna Robe links in emote, say, group and shout. I gave it to a warrior at the raid to pass to him when they ran off to do scout. TLDR: gave manna robe to another guildmate, not sure if it ever made it to the guild bank. but they blackhole stuff all the time worth more then 10-15k plat. I have no idea how you failed to work this out with a human being, just talking to each other in a private channel you couldn't resolve this? Mind blown.

Truth about what happened: I was fully geared from the previous guild who woke reds sleeper and had my primal and most of the loot I needed minus 2-3 pieces. One piece, vulak dagger that it took 8 months from the date of removal for the guild to get, that quoted poster has(he wanted me out of the way for competition he had primal but shitty gear so I would've had 10x the DKP he did by time the good loots dropped and he would have taken aback seat for a while) Lots of the officers, and majority of the guild that made up the full time players didn't like me. As such they were the former resistance, they farmed lodizal and VP for months after I left their guild on bad terms to join the glorious <Empire> and get showered in pixels. Not everyone was showered with pixels in <Empire> that shit was corrupt as fuck. Not to mention raiding with 80-90+ people meant absurd lines.

Upon gaining loots such as primal, kromzek crown, dain belt and numerous other items. It only made their hatred grow more and more. So finally when we were all guilded back together again, obviously its a small server and toxic people stay toxic. I was the top dps rogue in the guild, You were good, but got replaced sorry! and usually did DPS equal to 4-5 of their rogues. So I got a solo kill on a golem in Fear while an --OFFICER-- gave me his AoN to click before hand.

After linking the crappy loot the golem dropped, one hater screamed out in teamspeak "HES A SKELETON LOOK AT HIM, AON DROPPED HES FUCKING TRYING TO NINJA LOOT IT" to which officers said "ok guys calm down, we will petition a GM and check what loot dropped now kill him". I managed to pull my epic at 1% and avoid the embarrassment of YT. Only to be sent a tell after they realized again, I did majority of the dps and was still holding numerous droppable loots they wanted back including the officers AoN(yes an officer of the guild and one other basically set this all up for kicks) but guild was so high strung over loot at the time even after my removal, they lost 3-4 more prime raiders over AoNs before declaring it a DKP item not officer awarded. I don't recall who those players are, but AoN's are soon going to alts in Apex!

Mind you this guilds policy was Tabula Rasa, everything done in the past was forgotten(i knew a week into joining it wasn't because of the grudges people still harbored but this is how red is mind you) So basically over some 10k plat item and an AoN freakout they did the best thing by guild removing me. And you're still upset, trolling raids over 400k items, nobody has time for that. You may have got the short end of the stick, but you were being retarded about the whole situation and not coming clean or being honest about it in a timely manner. If I was an officer I wouldn't have time for childish behavior either. As I joined another guild that raided casually, hung out and did stuff together whenever we wanted with no schedules. After about 5 months of never seeing <Apex> outside of ToV and together in 60 man raids. Once they had full gear + primals, they finally started showing their faces to try and pvp on these decked out toons(OP 60 SK, dozekar/vulak loot(s) and more, still terrible cant kill anyone). Quoted poster, vulak dagger near bis velious still gets dunked by a kunark geared mithril rogue makes excuses.

Spend 7-8 months of raiding dkp to get 3 pieces of loot(I was 100% RA in every raid guild ive been in since I have no life), I suppose I've been in Apex for a year now? Taking on average one best in slot item every 3 weeks, not sure how you only ended up with 3 items - guess your last guild decked you out and you were due for a main switch, but were holding out for a Vulak Dagger that's your own fault. The average member gearing up takes way more than 3 items in 8 months that's insane. I was gladly ready to re-raid velious and help teach this content after beating it all in my previous guild. Super happy I was forced to leave and then sit and watch as they struggled over the easiest of raids. 7 months down the line I would have had to wait for vulak loot. Mind you, with 33 people and most of their dps with primal they still wiped in VP to PD, SW, even druushk somehow.

So my epic tale of red, Yeah its dead except to the existing players with 60s. Don't come and join apex. If you are even thinking or wanting to try to play red, Go look up Disposable Heros it's the leveling guild you'll see everywhere, Thunderdome is filled with griefers. You will enjoy the server more, not be voice tested + IP checked numerous times to see if anyone recognizes your voice or IP as a spy as in Apex. VPNs = auto kick. Who knows they may even require you to submit a photo ID and proof of address with some utility bills now to prevent spies. Your guild actually has spies, you promote that. So we're a little careful - sorry!

I should add, Tune originally made a post about a blue xfer named Hekktor. Hekktor took a break, gave his account information to the guildleader, and just recently came back. He took out 4 Thunderdome yesterday and was rewarded for his efforts in Sleeper's Tomb with a Primal Velium Warsword. Once in awhile someone else would log him in, however the player currently slaying your guildmates is the original owner. Send someone over to our lobby that isn't banned in our Teamspeak and you can see him in channel and talking. Who he dubbed "best blue transfer ever, 1-60 in a week bla bla bla) dude got his sleepers key, decked out. Now tune 'owns' the account, Hekktor was fake to begin with. Never existed. Tunes 100% RA rogue "Hekktor" was Tune boxing as a new app to get more loot and propaganda. He also 'inherited' many other accounts, including Ferel(60 cleric he told the guild NEEDED to be BIS velious geared to help heal the guild, getting gear dkp free while spending dkp on his SK to PVP, something a few of the officers caught on and did to get double item loots one free one paid) PS he charge backed Ferel for $750 afterwards.

tldr x2: RED IS DEAD, You're afraid people might join Apex and give your guild a hard time. I get why you would counter red recruitment. CHECK THE NUMBERS, LOGIN READ OOC IF MUST. OOC is hilarious, and low numbers are good if you're trying to complete quests without being harassed. I'll take another 150-200 people on Red, but I wouldn't want even 400 or 500 people. RUN OVER TO STORMFEATHER AND FIND HIM UP 75% OF THE TIME this is still camped all the time, you're insane..

end wall of text. Grats Apex on vulak! not.

[heartbrand]

SEEK HELP YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL

[Deillon]

Originally Posted by syztem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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TLDR

If you want to move to red and get pixels pst to any apex member. If you want to be toxic and grief while getting hung up about something that happened almost a year ago (and post 2000 word essays about it) join thunderdome. Either way we will welcome you to red.

[Tune]

Originally Posted by Deillon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Drugs

This poster is mad that he ninja looted a manarobe and got kicked out of Apex. He has been trying to slander/grief Apex ever since.

this costed him first vulak dagger

crime doesnt pay u are held accountable for your actions in <Apex>

Boca Bros REAL mad

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[syztem]

Originally Posted by Tune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this costed him first vulak dagger

crime doesnt pay u are held accountable for your actions in <Apex>

Boca Bros REAL mad

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again i go back to the part of sitting 8 months raiding collecting dkp only to get this 1 item. Now your guild is dying fast and you never got to farm vulak so you and high dkp raiders want new blood so they can spend n quit gg, u forgot to mention that in OP

[TheDuck]

Originally Posted by Tune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this costed him first vulak dagger

crime doesnt pay u are held accountable for your actions in <Apex>

Boca Bros REAL mad

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if you really think we are mad that we didnt waste 8 months cucking to get a dagger in the end stages of life of this server. you are sadly mistaken. we truely do look upon your spergout as a blessing and woke us to the fact that you where never really our friend, you used us and the people we attracted towards your ends.

in end you are just like nizzar tune, you use and abuse people. you still have a heart and feel guilty about it, and thats why you can't come to terms who the real shitbag of this whole situation is. you kicked your supposed best friends out of your guild over a manna robe/situation we had pulled pranks on many times. the only thing special about this manna robe was that YOU wanted to black hole it. you can make up whatever you want and lie and say this or that. but the only people that know the truth are me you jupe and vapo. and initially i was upset that i was kicked, because i was upset that my close friends would do that. but more and more i realized you had done us a favor. so thank you.

EQ free for the last 10 months, and i have kept in contact with my friends the whole time and they have been telling me you see agatha and jupe everywhere you look when a new player joins. how petty and paranoid of you. seek help. and fast. You have a legit problem.

edit: the second you had the chance to shed the boca bro's from you once you had used us and no longer needed us when you had your guild you got rid of us at first chance. call it ninja looting, call it what you will. you planned to get rid of us the first chance you had. after playing together for 3 years helping you level, with ports. everything. Just wish more people would awaken to this fact.

[Aesop]

Idk why this was moved. It's the general chat for p1999 which red is a part.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by syztem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I joined maybe 3 years ago, it took me a while to find my way during my first pvp experience, but I was fortunately enough to join Hokuten.

These guys were the resistance, they weren't about pixels as much as about disrupting the evil guild that ruled the server. Whoever that was, I wasn't bothered, but as a motivation it still worked.

A great deal of raids and nearly as many "guild banked items" later, the guild disbanded, its core members leaving for Azrael, and that was it.

The people I had formed somewhat of a bond with were suddenly harder to reach, and most of them flat out quit.

The best time / reward spent I had during raids on r99 was during empire. I actually felt I got awarded well for my time.

Problem most guilds have is they are ruled by cliques, hogging the best and as most of the loot as possible, and these people wonder why new members don't remain active.

It doesn't matter if you have 12.000.000³ DKP, if you gained it at the cost of being able to kill Vulak / AoW, your gear will remain sub-optimal. People also don't want to join your guild while making 23 dkp / hour while you are competing.

In short, fuck you (fraudulent) elitists. I know your position perfectly well, Tune and co, because I was an elitist on live for years.

In the end you've been anti-social in a small community, and now you regret your shitty behavior, but only because it prevents you from getting pixels.