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Old 07-08-2016, 04:43 PM
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not at all, i'm just telling you that just like texans don't give a fuck about "not-texas," most of the world also doesn't give a fuck about them either
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Old 07-08-2016, 05:09 PM
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I had to stop here because you are just so INHERENTLY stupid.

136/566 = 24% So in 2016 24% of people killed by the police were black... yet the Black population is as 12.2-12.4% of the US.


If white deaths made up the same raiton as black deaths based on their population (63% of the USA). There would need to have been 713 white people killed in 2016 alone.

So no.. its FAR more likely to be killed by the police as a black person than a white person.

BASIC FUCKING MATH.

Also I think the percent of police killing was around 50% for whites.. which actually demonstrate that whites are less likely than their population dictates to be killed by cops.
You're not adjusting for Black criminality or even "socioeconomics" in any way so you're hardly doing any better.
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Old 07-08-2016, 05:42 PM
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You're not adjusting for Black criminality or even "socioeconomics" in any way so you're hardly doing any better.
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could you post the adjusted figures for how many blacks should be killed by police, based on encounter rate?
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Old 07-08-2016, 05:51 PM
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You're not adjusting for Black criminality or even "socioeconomics" in any way so you're hardly doing any better.
I'm doing alot better. Please demonstrate criminality rates you think conflict, and we can debate whether or not those crimes would have been ignored if they weren't black or not. In the end. Simple fact is some moron claimed you are more likely to be killed as a white by the police than a black.... I've proven conclusively that it's very very false.
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:12 PM
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I'm doing alot better. Please demonstrate criminality rates you think conflict, and we can debate whether or not those crimes would have been ignored if they weren't black or not. In the end. Simple fact is some moron claimed you are more likely to be killed as a white by the police than a black.... I've proven conclusively that it's very very false.
Do you really think there are no differences between groups of people on the aggregate? Give me a break.

Victimization surveys indicate black people commit more crimes, disproportionate to the population difference. In other words, if you ask the victims of crime, they indicate they've been victims of crime by blacks at a rate disproportionate to black population. ( http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus08.pdf search for "race of offender". Interesting side note, they stopped publishing race of offender stats when Obama got into office. They recently started publishing the data (they've always been tracking it, just not publishing) but I can't find the 2015 data atm)

You believe that a higher rate of black arrests indicates racism. Would it surprise you to know that this racial disparity is completely accounted for after including covariates for self-reported lifetime violence and IQ? (source: https://www.researchgate.net/publica...lescent_Health )
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:18 PM
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I'm doing alot better. Please demonstrate criminality rates you think conflict, and we can debate whether or not those crimes would have been ignored if they weren't black or not. In the end. Simple fact is some moron claimed you are more likely to be killed as a white by the police than a black.... I've proven conclusively that it's very very false.


Candace McCoy is a criminologist at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York. McCoy said blacks might be more likely to have a violent encounter with police because they are convicted of felonies at a higher rate than whites. Felonies include everything from violent crimes like murder and rape, to property crimes like burglary and embezzlement, to drug trafficking and gun offenses.

The Bureau of Justice Statistics reported that in 2004, state courts had over 1 million felony convictions. Of those, 59 percent were committed by whites and 38 percent by blacks. But when you factor in the population of whites and blacks, the felony rates stand at 330 per 100,000 for whites and 1,178 per 100,000 for blacks. That’s more than a three-fold difference.


That is from referenced data within the following article at politifact http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...whites-blacks/

I ran across the above within the following article published yesterday from the Washington Times. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ut-minority-d/

both articles mention how the data is insufficiently kept so your numbers probably were not accurate to begin with Allaharti.
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:23 PM
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got these boys diggin up & requoting year-old mad l0l

seriously tho, a decent comparison of the relative rates of being killed by po po depends very much on how many encounters the populations in question have with police. Obviously a group of 12 gang members is more likely to be killed (by necessity) by police than 12 law-abiders, yes? So if you're refusing to account for this your analysis is made up political dogshit, not that I'm claiming I can provide a decent analysis myself on p99 forum from wikipedia. But I can do better than deliberately ignoring variables like Alarti here.

If blacks make up 12% of population but 35% of the incarcerated, a clumsy highly nonscientific ballpark would suggest they have 3x the encounters with police relative to general population. Yet they are only killed at 2x the rate of the general pop (24% of police killings). From these numbers you could suggest black people are in fact only 66.6% as likely to be killed by ZOG as nonblack relative to their rate of confrontation with it.

Your next argument will be to try to blame the entirety of the disparity in incarceration rate on systemic racism, but even then you're cutting corners. You need to adjust for the "socioeconomics" of blacks being generally poorer than Whites, and the increase in criminality that renders. And stopping there entails completely handwaving away the impacts of the cultures of different American racial groups on criminal behavior (hard to impossible to quantify, idiotic to pretend it has no impact though).

The truth is that racism probably does play a certain role in the increased incarceration rate, but if you are arguing that the very obvious glorification of violence and gang activity in American black culture has no effect on criminality you are retarded or arguing disingenuously. There are also other hypothetical effects I can't get into that are worth considering if you can do so anonymously.

So what do you think -- do blacks get wrongfully incarcerated due to racism so much more than 33% of the time that they not only break even with their White counterparts in likelihood of dying to police, but are more likely to be killed?
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:31 PM
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feels good living in an all white town

zero of these problems
I was slow to the thread, but this. My neighborhood is so damned quiet. It's awesome.

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Use proper verbiage " Firearm " and make sure you act appropriate and you won't "usually" get shot.
This. I was pulled over for doing a mild rolling stop at an intersection while doing a bank run for the business I was the manager for at the time. I have a concealed weapons permit because they give them out like candy in Northern California, and I carried money from time to time. Anyway, kept my hands in plain sight, handed the officer the license, registration, and proof of insurance on the dot and included the permit, unasked for. The cop asked me if the weapon was present and I answered yes, along with the fact I was doing a bank run. He asked to see the pistol, was happy I was such a responsible human being for having everything expected of me, and gave me a warning when he had his ticket pad out and was ready to go to cite me. Felt so good.
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Old 07-08-2016, 07:09 PM
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America is fucked because of the prevalence of stupid racist fucks such as most posting in this thread. Its unfortunate that i live so close by if civil war part II breaks out because it will inevitably have consequences for neighbooring countries.

Rotten to the core, people blinded by racism, this will not end well
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Old 07-08-2016, 07:14 PM
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America is fucked because of the prevalence of stupid racist fucks such as black lives matter animals.
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