Most Dominant Guild Ever? VOTE

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thing about TMO was that it wasn't that other guilds didnt want to compete. They tried. Its that they couldnt compete. You call it farming stale content, I call it dominating current content to the point where guilds knew it was futile to even try to compete.

When Rampage was winning, all it took was matching their numbers to get on even ground. You could match TMO numbers all you wanted, it didnt matter, you werent getting anything.

Thats just my 2 cents tho.

So your first paragraph described empire.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thing about TMO was that it wasn't that other guilds didnt want to compete. They tried. Its that they couldnt compete. You call it farming stale content, I call it dominating current content to the point where guilds knew it was futile to even try to compete.

When Rampage was winning, all it took was matching their numbers to get on even ground. You could match TMO numbers all you wanted, it didnt matter, you werent getting anything.

Thats just my 2 cents tho.

Except that FE beat TMO. We competed enough to burn out your top players, conspired behind the scenes to get the hammer dropped on TMO for cheating, infiltrated their ranks through a merger, replaced their officers with FE officers, corrupted Detoxx to sabotage the guild from within and then finally, gave Detoxx my blessing to pull the plug on TMO and form Forsaken.

[Turp]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except that FE beat TMO. We competed enough to burn out your top players, conspired behind the scenes to get the hammer dropped on TMO for cheating, infiltrated their ranks through a merger, replaced their officers with FE officers, corrupted Detoxx to sabotage the guild from within and then finally, gave Detoxx my blessing to pull the plug on TMO and form Forsaken.

The current / new clique calls You "tinfoil"[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] if you believe this stuff still happens...

It is more plausible that they are just gullible and or dumb.

[Turp]

Originally Posted by Kayso [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IB/Rampage were dominant in two different eras of the server, but eventually that core always seemed to get "fatigued" and walk away. No matter how many pixels it consumed month after month, TMO didn't seem to get fatigued in that way.

IB (+a team)was Rampage minus Getsome right? That is what I remember. The officers and raiders seemed to be the same people. I know Rogean considered you a new guild but I think he got *both times wrong.

*With TMO - Forsaken it was new leader and officers , new system and a total revamp so you couldn't consider them the same... (yet lord Rogean did lol).

TMO was fatigued in the end. True it was not by the pixel consumption.
but pixels do not burn out people...ever. It's new rules , petition quest , 16 hour variance - etc.
Now...
If RNF plays a role in the most "Dominant" , then TMO wins.
because You do not see many IB still working the forum quest angle.
)which is not a bad thing(

http://wiki.project1999.com/Server_Firsts >-< lol BUT...
who will be server lasts?
can Getsome and crew take over from start to finish... very possible.
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It would change my vote if they did. Can't argue with #1 Server first and server last. That is the definition of total domination for a EQ server.

[Arteker]

longer domination and succes TMO 2,0(1 was original pre da merger, and 3 the ginger thing wich was born from the breed with certain other guild).

most skilled guild by far rampage without doubts .

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thing about TMO was that it wasn't that other guilds didnt want to compete. They tried. Its that they couldnt compete. You call it farming stale content, I call it dominating current content to the point where guilds knew it was futile to even try to compete.

When Rampage was winning, all it took was matching their numbers to get on even ground. You could match TMO numbers all you wanted, it didnt matter, you werent getting anything.

Thats just my 2 cents tho.

FE competed with TMO and eventually TMO just gave up when that whole froovygate thing happened and when VP became a CSR zone. No one gives FE credit but if it wasnt for them TMO would probably still be dominating and rampage/Ib never would have been able to come back the way they did. I remember how mad zeelot was when we sniped that PD from TMO and then the froovygate thing must have sent him over the edge.

FE made the mistake of trusting IB in an alliance to take down TMO. This ended up failing and IB more or less told FE it was their way or the highway. Then FE made the fatal mistake of merging into TMO out of spite toward IB. TMO crumbled for the most part after that as there was left over drama from froovygate/zeelot going mental/old guard TMO not wanting to merge with the enemy. Now it seems that FE has been struck from the history books.

Everyone who was there remembers though!

[Paumad]

Youngspindoctors, all of you. <3

[Detoxx]

Also, the guild with Fauss always wins.

[Freakish]

I would argue it's more of the constant raid scene rule changes that kill guilds more than a competitor rising to compete. How long do you think TMO (old, crew that loved to train in non csr vp) would put up with coth ducking for sev after 5 years of Kunark? I doubt very long. If they made VP CSR years ago they would not have had the free reign there either. Basically, we are a product of our situations and TMO definitely played their situation well it doesn't grind your soul like coth duck fte at 3 am does.

(I voted TMO)

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would argue it's more of the constant raid scene rule changes that kill guilds more than a competitor rising to compete. How long do you think TMO (old, crew that loved to train in non csr vp) would put up with coth ducking for sev after 5 years of Kunark? I doubt very long. If they made VP CSR years ago they would not have had the free reign there either. Basically, we are a product of our situations and TMO definitely played their situation well it doesn't grind your soul like coth duck fte at 3 am does.

(I voted TMO)

VP was non CSR during the FE days. Until IB came around i think you guys killed 2 dragons, one of which was just a KS?