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[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Alienorg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would say that if your guild gets ban for cheating (cheating for a raid lvl encounter) then if anyone in your guild gets caught cheating (using the same program/type of cheat) in any way even if it isn't for a raid lvl encounter then yes I feel maybe the entire guild should feel the pain again.

There are always going to be bad people and they will find ways to get into good guilds but as a guild u have to try your best to prevent this. ie: making it hard to get into your guild/disbanding people in your guild that you find are doing something wrong or you will have to suffer for the faults of your members as a whole.

I'd say to the good people in DA, that maybe they should get together and make a new guild and just start over and maybe be a bit little stricter on who u let into your guild. with over 100(no clue on how many active members DA has) people and a lot of those people being new, anything is possible.

Im glad the GM's are doing something, its a start atleast.

A start to what?

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Molitoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Considering DA has cleared planer trash 2-3 times a day and DKP is being added up upon the hour... if you miss 1-2 days of raiding Planar trash, it can really skew the attendance percentage.

I'd say Mountaineer has been to approx 80% of the non-planar trash raids. Regardless, why is this even be discussed?

Because it adds a little content to a thread that is so desperately lacking any.

Short version: 90% of the people in the thread here (yeah, im lowballing) could never provide any proof or hard figures on the various banning and hacking insults thrown back and forth.

The second someone spouts off something that can be checked, forum detectives go apeshit and come back with infoz that give the masses something to truly bicker about.

p.s. i really enjoyed the pic of the bunny eating popcorn. bravo!

[Mountaineer]

Thats been point Bubbles hehe.

And yes, more Bunnies!!

[Ledzepp02]

Hypothetical, yet pertains to the situation:

We're poopsocking Naggy (as we were)

Random_zerg_force_applicant_07 is tagged by us to await Naggy spawn (they're not even sponsored or eligible to become a recruit yet.)

Random_zerg_force_applicant_07 binds at Naggy and decides to go to Lguk to MQ it up, with our temporary tag on. (keep in mind we don't know who the HELL this person is yet)

Random_zerg_force_applicant_07 proceeds to be a dumbfuck by getting banned for using MQ

Guild is punished for random_zerg_force_applicant_07's actions while under said temporary tag.

I fail to follow the logic in this.

*He wasn't an applicant, no, but most of us are going "who the fuck is that guy? I haven't seen him in months if at all. They don't even raid with us.*

..Something to consider

[Pheer]

maybe voice your concerns to your guild and tell them to stop zerg recruiting then?

[Supreme]

It is just a game....ffs.

[Mountaineer]

DERP DERP was not a recruit DERP DERP.

[Alienorg]

maybe perhaps keep track on who is tagged a member a bit better???
I know we disbanded our entire guild before (on this server or on live) just to clean out people that maybe we tagged at some point but aren't supposed to be members. We check who all guild is online all the time and make sure there isn't anyone that we don't know is a member. We keep a good account of our membership.
It sounds like u have a good idea of your membership as u keep Hours of raid time on them, so if u see someone online with your guild tag u can easily check if they should be a member or not, I'm just saying if you don't know who you are playing with maybe u should do a few internal audits. or get banned because some "random" guy with your guild tag does something dumb and cheats.

[Ledzepp02]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DERP DERP was not a recruit DERP DERP.

Originally Posted by Ledzepp

Hypothetical, yet pertains to the situation

Originally Posted by Ledzepp

*He wasn't an applicant, no, but most of us are going "who the fuck is that guy? I haven't seen him in months if at all. They don't even raid with us.*

Read carefully buddy =P

[Rahnza]

If all the facts presented are true true, the 1 week suspension was definitely unfair. Zerg recruiting or not, raiding guilds need to eventually find new members. Whether you're recruiting en masse or filling spot here and there, there's going to be a period of time where you consider a new member that you know nothing about. The matter of zerg recruiting is irrelevant here, you're just getting shots. IB is still recruiting members, and the same thing could easily happen to them.

There's a huge difference between using SEQ to track and kill a boss and some random doofus using MQ to solo in lguk. If you disagree, you're letting bias get in the way.