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[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly you can't make it up...BDA tried to pin the rotation collapse on Divinity while we all know that's not true.

Link that post.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Link that post.

I'm not your PA, search for it...its there.

Words along the lines of "Divinity have said they're no longer respecting the rotation so neither are we".

Sorry that history isn't your friend. Conduct yourselves better in future.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah pretty sure any post you'll find it was pinned on a few smaller Class R guilds who were exploiting loopholes in the rotation rules.

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not your PA, search for it...its there.

Words along the lines of "Divinity have said they're no longer respecting the rotation so neither are we".

Sorry that history isn't your friend. Conduct yourselves better in future.

You can't do it because it doesn't exist. Thanks for proving nobody can take your word for anything.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't do it because it doesn't exist. Thanks for proving nobody can take your word for anything.

wow I made that easy for you... just because you can't be bothered to look for it, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Sorry that history wasn't kind to BDA, conduct yourselves better in future and you might repair that bad rep. I'd personally say there needs to be another breakaway group looking to do positive things rather than continuing to swim in that mire...

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly you can't make it up...BDA tried to pin the rotation collapse on Divinity while we all know that's not true.

Nah pretty sure any post you'll find it was pinned on a few smaller Class R guilds who were exploiting loopholes in the rotation rules.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah pretty sure any post you'll find it was pinned on a few smaller Class R guilds who were exploiting loopholes in the rotation rules.

So rather than address it you decided to collapse the whole thing and reconstruct it to take 1 in 3 of each Kunark dragon (plus some in the FFA tier)...what a sign of BDA led community cohesion.

When did BDA last run a community event? The last thing anyone pointed out to me was Filbus and someone did some roleplay in the EC tunnel.

yikes

Thank the good lord for Omni, they'll light the way to a better community.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So rather than address it you decided to collapse the whole thing and reconstruct it to take 1 in 3 of each Kunark dragon (plus some in the FFA tier)...what a sign of BDA led community cohesion.

BDA/Taken/Div did try to address it privately in the Class R forums for months, and then when no one could agree on changes, publicly for like a month or two. That obviously didn't work, so the rotation ended a couple months early - Velious was doing away with it anyways and everyone knew that.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA/Taken/Div did try to address it privately in the Class R forums for months, and then when no one could agree on changes, publicly for like a month or two. That obviously didn't work, so the rotation ended a couple months early - Velious was doing away with it anyways and everyone knew that.

Arguably the "changes" weren't supposed to be agreed on, the architects knew nobody was agreeing. In fact you could argue strongly that "proposal" and "ultimatium" were the same thing.

Look what happened, way more pixels for BDA and Taken to the point where the casual guilds didn't bother contesting someone else's "turn" at Dragon X or Y.

From that perspective, very well written and worked out nicely, didn't it?

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah pretty sure any post you'll find it was pinned on a few smaller Class R guilds who were exploiting loopholes in the rotation rules.

Here's some history for you from an actual participant:

"Exploting" was definitely the rationale of the 3 largest Class R Guilds that presented the smaller Guilds with a draconian new ruleset for Class R with repeated ultimatums threatening to break the rotation - "they are exploiting the Class R model". They felt that smaller Guilds assisting each other with kills that they might not be able to take down 24/7 was "exploiting" and wanted to lock those Guilds out of the pixels that they wanted.

I think the smaller Guilds on the other hand felt that since the mobs were already allocated to a Guild in the rotation, assisting other Guilds wasn't reducing the mobs available to anyone else, and sharing in the loot wasn't reducing the loot available to everyone else. So not "exploiting" at all. The Big3 needed to be Class C anyways.

I don't think Divinity was more than a willing participant in the three Guild-led ruleset change to greedily snag extra pixels for themselves in a BDA/Taken/Divinity rotation. They were probably kicking themselves afterwards since when things settled down and CSG worked out how to coordinate three Guilds at a raid, it was pretty much on a rotation of BDA - Taken - Casual Scum Guilds (Omni/AG/Europa) and they didn't get a lot of mobs for quite a while.

Just some perspective. The rotation fell apart because the three biggest Class R Guilds were greedily coveting the slots of the smaller Guilds, wanted to lock them out if they couldn't kill the mobs solo 24/7, and the smaller Guilds told them to go to hell.

Regards,
Mg

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