lol ru kidding me

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Lurikeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why stop at fetuses?

Because it's more cruel to kill a fully developed human than it is to kill a retarded fetus which can barely perceive the world or process sensory information.

But you have a point, we should sterilize people too when they are incapable of taking care of their children yet keep having more.

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[James_Joyce]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At what point did you become more sentient than an adult cow?

the line is arbitrary. That's why it doesn't matter when in its gestation we kill a fetus, so long as it hasn't been assigned a name and human identity (this is to be done at the moment of birth).

The morality that prioritizes unfeeling masses of flesh with no sense of identity over the end-result for living, breathing, sentient beings is backwards as fuck. Let the conscientous objectors raise a few of these unwanted mulatto crotchspawn if they want to stem the tide.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At what point did you become more sentient than an adult cow?

? i just asked you that but in a nicer way

[Lurikeen]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because it's more cruel to kill a fully developed human than it is to kill a retarded fetus which can barely perceive the world or process sensory information.

But you have a point, we should sterilize people too when they are incapable of taking care of their children yet keep having more.

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So let me see if I understand you correctly. You are saying it is good for the planet to kill fetuses ("ridiculous overpopulation of the human race and the extent to which we are destroying the planet is justification enough to kill an unwanted fetus "), but it is "more cruel to kill a fully developed human than it is to kill a retarded fetus" and so the criteria for helping to save the planet is that the killing must be relatively convenient and also humane?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by James_Joyce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the line is arbitrary. That's why it doesn't matter when in its gestation we kill a fetus, so long as it hasn't been assigned a name and human identity (this is to be done at the moment of birth).

The morality that prioritizes unfeeling masses of flesh with no sense of identity over the end-result for living, breathing, sentient beings is backwards as fuck. Let the conscientous objectors raise a few of these unwanted mulatto crotchspawn if they want to stem the tide.

How about toddlers? They don't have a fully developed sense of identity until around three or so.

And what morality prioritizes in the manner you have described? Are you referring to the feelings of the mother relative to the life of an embryo? Or something more dire?

[James_Joyce]

Originally Posted by Lurikeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So let me see if I understand you correctly. You are saying it is good for the planet to kill fetuses ("ridiculous overpopulation of the human race and the extent to which we are destroying the planet is justification enough to kill an unwanted fetus "), but it is "more cruel to kill a fully developed human than it is to kill a retarded fetus" and so the criteria for helping to save the planet is that the killing must be relatively convenient and also humane?

Why wouldn't you want it to be humane? Why would you want it to be inconvenient?

What are you even implying with these retarded questions?

[James_Joyce]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about toddlers? They don't have a fully developed sense of identity until around three or so.

And what morality prioritizes in the manner you have described? Are you referring to the feelings of the mother relative to the life of an embryo? Or something more dire?

Killing a human who has been assigned an identity is murder. Don't try to move the goalpost to shit I already covered, nerd.

As for which morality? Any morality that wants to restrict abortion and saddle society with unwanted children because of fears of it not being "humane" to carefully prune who enters society. The subjective experience of an entity that has no sense of identity is immaterial compared to material human concerns.

[Sidelle]

Some of you flirting with a bit of Nazi ideology. They started practicing euthanasia on their own mentally handicapped and old sick people in Germany before the war actually broke out.

[James_Joyce]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of you flirting with a bit of Nazi ideology. They started practicing euthanasia on their own mentally handicapped and old sick people in Germany.

If you promise socialized medicine this becomes a natural conclusion. Blame the statist tyrants.

I want a minimal government and medical care commensurate with my ability to pay so that I can depend on my natural ability to succeed and never have to worry about getting cut off from medicine or euthanized by a death panel, personally. What comes along with this is the personal responsibility to take care of your own damn kids and not bring children in who you will not care for, destabilizing the entire system and requiring a bloated government agency to start raising up state-raised, state-educated frankenstein children.

[iruinedyourday]

my dad payed into SS 360k over his life.. he will in return get about 80... what a fucking bunch of shit.