Why no palies?

[jolanar]

Originally Posted by Kevynne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

idk m8 my erudite necro in rags has more mana then my geared HIE wizard by about 300 and being 17 levels lower.

Unless you start a fight at full mana and need 100% of your mana for that fight, it doesn't really accomplish anything having 300 extra mana.

[Nixtar]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless you start a fight at full mana and need 100% of your mana for that fight, it doesn't really accomplish anything having 300 extra mana.

Well, for a Paladin it would. Same as with a cleric, having mana for one more heal/root/stun or are ress can save the group/raid from a wipe(or a lot of time). In a perfect world it might not matter much in reality things doesn't always go as planned.

And it doesn't matter how much mana you start out with, he would always have 300 more mana in any given situation. Even when OOM he'd spent 300 more mana.

Compared to a SK, for instance, who only really need to concern himself with having mana for disease cloud/shroud a Paladin has a lot more tools to add to his or her party(which when employed intensely would definitely be consumed faster than any mana reg would negate bar having a necro dedicated to feeding you).

Point is, yes, mana is important for a Paladin. I'd say, as a hybrid we're closer to the cleric side rather than the warrior whereas SKs are closer to the warrior than they are the necromancer.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless you start a fight at full mana and need 100% of your mana for that fight, it doesn't really accomplish anything having 300 extra mana.

yeah maybe on blue but [[cringe]] if you're playing a paladin on there

[Pyrion]

"get a primal" is only for the the most hard core of the hard cores, so i hope this was meant as a joke. Still i kinda agree with you, you can live with non maximized stats, so while some races are easier, all can be made good.

[Xaanka]

for a casual player high elf tunare is the best paladin. wis is good, and natures defender is a lot easier to get than epic.


but ya starting stat min/maxing shouldn't make any difference on a Paladin unless you're the most hardcore of poopsock raider, in which case its a given you have a primal weapon. thats sorta the point i was trying to make.

[Chaboo_Cleric]

Highelf Paladins are the best. The base Cha you receive is so good when it comes to lulls. Fact is without cha you will get crit resist. So the first gear you want to obtain is a Kobold Crown for swap out when lulling. Every other Palidan race can't lull worth shit making the entire line useless. It may not sound like a big deal , but when you can single pull mobs all day it helps a ton.

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Chaboo_Cleric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Highelf Paladins are the best. The base Cha you receive is so good when it comes to lulls. Fact is without cha you will get crit resist. So the first gear you want to obtain is a Kobold Crown for swap out when lulling. Every other Palidan race can't lull worth shit making the entire line useless. It may not sound like a big deal , but when you can single pull mobs all day it helps a ton.

The extra CHA certainly doesn't hurt but mob level is much, much more important when it comes to crit lull resists. My Dwarf Paladin rarely had lull resists when leveling (mostly on dark blue con mobs). That being said...CHA buffs and a few pieces of CHA gear are must haves when lulling tough spots. The High Elf definitely has an advantage in those rare situations, but the lower STR and STA matters all the time. Human and Dwarf are much better racial choices overall.

[Nixtar]

The race you pick for your paladin is completely irrelevant. Min-maxer or not.

The only question worth asking, do I want the Natures Defender or not? Then ask, do I enjoy the look/starter area of HE or half-elf. That's the race you should pick. If no to both, roll whatever you please. Erudite does have their hipster status and some race specific items.

Dwarf is a good choice if your're new though but if you have plat to spend, yeah, doesn't matter at all.

[Xaanka]

should be pointed out the high WIS races like HIE have a pretty solid advantage in group PVP situations, for any aspiring red pallies. hard to cap it even with endgame gear, and heals/cures are pretty much your most important tool (honorable mention to CH sword)

[Sage Truthbearer]

Nature's Defender looks cool but I almost never use mine. Reason being I always have a better weapon option for a given situation than ND, whether I'm tanking or just want my best DPS weapon.