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[Ele]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ted Cruz 2016

Called that like 7 pages back

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Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in your mind whether or not a gladiator fighting in The Coliseum provides a killing stroke (in a society that tolerated that particular behavior) provides a binary yes or no response to the question of whether or not the needs/wants of the many should ever trump an individual's liberty or freedom?

okay.

Once again the "point" eludes you. The majority controls the minority, the gladiator is just A tool the masses (thumbs up/thumbs down) use to oppress the minority. Society doesn't tolerate that particular behavior, it encourages and embraces it. The nature of man.

[ronasch]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Called that like 7 pages back

And your point?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once again the "point" eludes you. The majority controls the minority, the gladiator is just A tool the masses (thumbs up/thumbs down) use to oppress the minority. Society doesn't tolerate that particular behavior, it encourages and embraces it. The nature of man.

Your points are elusive because you can barely form a coherent thought, much less a cohesive sentence that presents your position.

So have you moved your goal posts now to complain about the nature of man instead of government being bad? If you remove government what does that leave us with man vs man? Then you will really see a majority versus a minority.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And your point?

Your statement of support for Senator Cruz further evidences your misunderstanding of net neutrality.

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Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your points are elusive because you can barely form a coherent thought, much less a cohesive sentence that presents your position.

So have you moved your goal posts now to complain about the nature of man instead of government being bad? If you remove government what does that leave us with man vs man? Then you will really see a majority versus a minority.

your right the point doesn't elude you, the point angers you because you have no factual or philosophical argument to rebut my arguments. You support enslavement of the few to benefit the many. You despise personal liberties because you yourself are incapable of survival without forcing others to provide for you. So yes, you will never be persuaded because in order to persuade you to my point, I would have to give you something in return.
Btw were always man vs man, government doesn't change that it just gives power to one of those "man"

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your right the point doesn't elude you, the point angers you because you have no factual or philosophical argument to rebut my arguments. You support enslavement of the few to benefit the many. You despise personal liberties because you yourself are incapable of survival without forcing others to provide for you. So yes, you will never be persuaded because in order to persuade you to my point, I would have to give you something in return.
Btw were always man vs man, government doesn't change that it just gives power to one of those "man"

I'm not even mad, I'm simply trying to walk you through your lack reasoning and application to real world problems. You keep dealing in abstracts and dodging the issues when pressed.

I haven't even stated my personal position in this thread on any of these issues. You are arguing against strawmen that you keep pulling out of thin air because you can't rebut or provide real world solutions to any of the issues presented in this thread due to your myopic and unwavering view of the world, government, and man.

[ronasch]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not even mad, I'm simply trying to walk you through your lack reasoning and application to real world problems. You keep dealing in abstracts and dodging the issues when pressed.

I haven't even stated my personal position in this thread on any of these issues. You are arguing against strawmen that you keep pulling out of thin air because you can't rebut or provide real world solutions to any of the issues presented in this thread due to your myopic and unwavering view of the world, government, and man.

I don't need your walk thru on communism I have read Marx and Engels work and understand it fully. Your answer for problems that were created by government is more government. Thus more problems.

I stated solutions multiple times in many of these posts. Just because my solutions require actual work doesn't mean they aren't fundamentally sound.

I mentioned Frank Capra in an earlier post, I suggest you observe his work. I'm sure you'll probably want an explanation on that too.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't need your walk thru on communism I have read Marx and Engels work and understand it fully. Your answer for problems that were created by government is more government. Thus more problems.

I stated solutions multiple times in many of these posts. Just because my solutions require actual work doesn't mean they aren't fundamentally sound.

I mentioned Frank Capra in an earlier post, I suggest you observe his work. I'm sure you'll probably want an explanation on that too.

Actual work being completely dismantling modern society and withdrawing into individual seclusion.