Current Sky Schedule

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In lieu of IB/A-Team merging and the old thread being closed, IMO a new Sky thread is warranted. AM / PM times are assumed to be roughly EST/EDT time zones.

Sunday - AM - Haggard Krew, PM - Forsaken
Monday - AM - Europa, PM - Asgard
Tuesday - Rampage
Wednesday - AM - Omni, PM - Divinity
Thursday - Taken
Friday - BDA
Saturday - AM/ early PM - Azure Guard, Late PM - Anyonymous

I think this is correct now....

[randomhero401]

Erati,

Haggard Krew will be doing AM On Sunday and I think Forsaken wanted to take over the PM slot.

Detoxx or anyone can you chime in if this works for you?

[Erati]

Originally Posted by randomhero401 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Erati,

Haggard Krew will be doing AM On Sunday and I think Forsaken wanted to take over the PM slot.

Detoxx or anyone can you chime in if this works for you?

I flipped you two around then while I could still edit my post.

but yea confirmation would be cool for the list to be official

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by randomhero401 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Erati,

Haggard Krew will be doing AM On Sunday and I think Forsaken wanted to take over the PM slot.

Detoxx or anyone can you chime in if this works for you?

Forsaken has no interest in the PM slot. We will, however, be willing to uphold the same schedule you shared with TMO, with Forsaken in the AM slot.

Sset, if you can put this issue to bed, I'd be willing to revisit our Noble agreement.

[randomhero401]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forsaken has no interest in the PM slot. We will, however, be willing to uphold the same schedule you shared with TMO, with Forsaken in the AM slot.

Sset, if you can put this issue to bed, I'd be willing to revisit our Noble agreement.

Ella,

I am going stand firm on us doing Sky in the AM. We were doing the AM slot when TMO didnt care about Sky because the Repops were priority. Forsaken is a new entity (Not TMO), with that being said if you don't want to take the Sunday PM slot that is available that is your decision.

As far as the Noble goes, i will make it known to the Server of what you were offering us. We agreed to rotate Nobles on Sunday and you turned this down. You offered us the 2nd noble if the stars aligned and there was 2 popping on that day. This was total bullshit and we turned that down because the repop day changed so we this wasn't an option for us at all.

What we offered was fair and i think this it was the best decision for both guilds but you wouldn't agree to it.

[wormed]

Lol, oh Forsaken. So far, so different, right?

[Pint]

to be fair there were 2 nobles that day and they knew there were 2 nobles that day until the ooa's despawned, they offered you a very fair agreement. you guys just didnt know how nobels work. also i doubt unbrella represents forsaken, hes prob just trolling.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to be fair there were 2 nobles that day and they knew there were 2 nobles that day until the ooa's despawned, they offered you a very fair agreement. you guys just didnt know how nobels work.

The deal was very fair from our perspective. However, on that note, I'm also not known for making overwhelmingly one-sided deals either. TMO had maintained Sky Sunday for years. When A-Team and Inglourious Bastards merged, we were very excited to no longer share a day (an agreement I enforced our leadership to uphold out of respect for both Cobblestone and Argh during their respective leadership phases). We had no interest in sharing Sunday any longer, however it appears my kindness is now being viewed as weakness as I elected to work out an arrangement that let Haggard Krew raid Sky uninterrupted on Sundays. Further, we told you that you could even raid during our time when we weren't going to be in Sky.

From our perspective, we were the bigger guild and it's not really Class-C's nature to believe that everything is up for 50/50 grabs. You didn't just automatically deserve 50% of all nobles that spawned on that day, we'd had that day for years and really had no reason to even share the day with you once A-Team moved on. That's not really native to just Class-C though. I'd have a hard time believing that even the larger Class-R guilds like Taken and BDA would feel you were entitled to 50% nobles as the 'new kids on the block'.

You were getting 50% of all nobles as long as there were 2 spawning on Sunday, and 50% of any third Noble. Additionally, you would have gotten every noble that we were in VP for for as long as mobs in VP were in window on Sundays. Effectively, you had a chance 3 nobles (100%) every Sunday. The only sacrifice was there would be some weeks you didn't get any, if there was only 1 spawning and VP mobs weren't in window.

To recap our conversation:

Sset,

Thanks for being patient and I apologize for keeping you hanging for so long. I ran a few ideas past the rest of leadership regarding the matter and this is what we felt would best suit us while still respecting the intentions of Haggard Krew's progression.

There can be multiple Nobles that spawn per day. As TMO has held Sunday for sky for several years now (most of that time we had the whole day), TMO feels most fair that we reserve the right to kill the first noble spawn on the day we share - Sunday. Should a second Noble spawn, Haggard Krew, then has the right to either engage it or pass it back to us. In the even of a third spawn, HK and TMO can rotate that one. In the event that HK passed on their second spawn and TMO engaged it, HK can take the third noble regardless of who is up in the rotation for that one or pass.

Also, regarding the first noble, I want to stress that on days we will not be going for noble, we will reach out to Haggard Krew and offer it to them.

Thoughts?

I'll pass this on to our raid leadership and let them know we've got something to work with.

Best of luck tonight,
TMO!

Also, I'd like to say, regardless of the outcome of our above negotiation, I appreciate the tone we both kept while dealing with the issue. Unfortunately, there are several others officers in Haggard Krew that don't follow your lead or appreciation for civility. My willingness to work anything out with anyone significantly decreases when your officers tell me or any of the officers of Forsaken "If you don't like it, you're going to deal with it".

Finally,

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also i doubt unbrella represents forsaken, hes prob just trolling.

I do and I'm not.

[randomhero401]

Pint,

I knew that two Nobles were spawning on that cycle. That i was all fine and dandy for us but the problem was we didn't have everything ironed out before the reset shortly after that on Monday.

Once that happened every noble would have been their's unless they decided to skip it. So from our stand point this so called deal was totally in their favor, we would only get the scraps.

[Pint]

once the reset happened it would have been 3 weeks until it would have been their noble again so you would have had plenty of time to renegotiate.