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Old 01-29-2015, 03:12 PM
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Can we just try to make this game not any less classic than it already is? Its slowly getting destroyed by shit like this.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:14 PM
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Can we just try to make this game not any less classic than it already is? Its slowly getting destroyed by shit like this.
Example of somebody who stands to lose from changes to the status quo. You don't care about classic. You care about pixels. Any change that threatens that therefore threatens your self esteem and you can't let that happen.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:16 PM
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Can we just try to make this game not any less classic than it already is? Its slowly getting destroyed by shit like this.
Okay.

0 Variance please
No multiple Chatboxes
No multiple Hotkey windows
No scroll wheel to 3rd person
No moving items in banked bags
No duck casting spells
No sneak pulling exploits
Etc.

Get the Devs to do 0 Variance. That would be fantastical.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:19 PM
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Example of somebody who stands to lose from changes to the status quo. You don't care about classic. You care about pixels. Any change that threatens that therefore threatens your self esteem and you can't let that happen.
Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard, as I already have everything I could want 4 years into kunark, but keep trying. I believe its the threat of you NOT getting pixels that is driving your support for this stupid and non-classic mechanic to be piled onto a list of already stupid, non-classic mechanics such as, I dont know, the entire Class C/R/FFA system that was implemented.

Dont get me wrong, the system has worked well thus far, and the server is certainly a better place for everyone to play but...when is enough enough? If you want free shit, or you want to trigger your raid mobs, EZ server is pretty successful and conveniently located on the same server list as P99.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:32 PM
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Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard, as I already have everything I could want 4 years into kunark, but keep trying. I believe its the threat of you NOT getting pixels that is driving your support for this stupid and non-classic mechanic to be piled onto a list of already stupid, non-classic mechanics such as, I dont know, the entire Class C/R/FFA system that was implemented.

Dont get me wrong, the system has worked well thus far, and the server is certainly a better place for everyone to play but...when is enough enough? If you want free shit, or you want to trigger your raid mobs, EZ server is pretty successful and conveniently located on the same server list as P99.
Implementing quests to trigger raid mobs is not the same thing as EZ server, nor is it a hand-out any more than spawning Ixiblat Fer for a shot at a Cloak of Flames is. If anything it's less of a hand-out because people actually have to earn their shit in more of a capacity than simply being on-call 24/7 to show up for FTE.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:39 PM
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Implementing quests to trigger raid mobs is not the same thing as EZ server, nor is it a hand-out any more than spawning Ixiblat Fer for a shot at a Cloak of Flames is. If anything it's less of a hand-out because people actually have to earn their shit in more of a capacity than simply being on-call 24/7 to show up for FTE.
Sure, and I was just making a point with EZ server, not saying it does have hand-ins. Saying its the same as spawning Ixi is insane tho because, lets be honest, Cloak of Flames is not the same thing as VP loot / Rare epics like Mage, Wiz, Nec, SK etc. I know, sure you can farm enough CoFs to hopefully score an MQ of one of them, but thats very unlikely and not an option for any of VPs best loot.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:41 PM
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Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard, as I already have everything I could want 4 years into kunark, but keep trying. I believe its the threat of you NOT getting pixels that is driving your support for this stupid and non-classic mechanic to be piled onto a list of already stupid, non-classic mechanics such as, I dont know, the entire Class C/R/FFA system that was implemented.

Dont get me wrong, the system has worked well thus far, and the server is certainly a better place for everyone to play but...when is enough enough? If you want free shit, or you want to trigger your raid mobs, EZ server is pretty successful and conveniently located on the same server list as P99.
If EZ was the exact same as P1999 except it allowed triggering raid mobs then I would play there. I think most current P1999 players would too.

Don't want free shit. Want to enjoy and relive classic raid encounters without having to spend gazillion hours tracking and batphoning because I'm an adult now and don't have time for that shit like I did as a teenager.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:48 PM
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Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard, as I already have everything I could want 4 years into kunark, but keep trying. I believe its the threat of you NOT getting pixels that is driving your support for this stupid and non-classic mechanic to be piled onto a list of already stupid, non-classic mechanics such as, I dont know, the entire Class C/R/FFA system that was implemented.

Dont get me wrong, the system has worked well thus far, and the server is certainly a better place for everyone to play but...when is enough enough? If you want free shit, or you want to trigger your raid mobs, EZ server is pretty successful and conveniently located on the same server list as P99.
***Except one of the most valuable epics allowing you to manna robe withhout losing mana and rune using no reagents or mana***

Fine print is important. That being said though... Variance is the devil. Anything is better than variance. Rewarding players for doing NOTHING BUT STARING AT A WALL FOR 16 HOURS... Is quite possibly the most dumb thing to be produced by this server. Extended 96 hour variance before hand is the only dumber thing I could think of.

Anything that gets away from Variance is good. Rewarding neckbeard's for staring at a pixel wall all of their waking hours of a day is bad. I got roped into sitting in KC for like an hour for VS the other day and even though I was AFK for most of that, I wanted to stab someone in the eye over how dumb it was that 40+ people were just sitting there and would continue to for the next 15 hours.

No variance let people who want to compete do so with fast reactions, and solid strategies. Not whoever is more likely to be awake and stare at a wall for longer
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:51 PM
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Sure, and I was just making a point with EZ server, not saying it does have hand-ins. Saying its the same as spawning Ixi is insane tho because, lets be honest, Cloak of Flames is not the same thing as VP loot / Rare epics like Mage, Wiz, Nec, SK etc. I know, sure you can farm enough CoFs to hopefully score an MQ of one of them, but thats very unlikely and not an option for any of VPs best loot.
VP is another thing that could use some non-classic massaging. A guild can be in and out downing a dragon in under 15 minutes and it's supposed to be the hardest zone in the game right now. Where's the fun in that? I understand, you're racing another guild and the fastest one gets the loot, but really? You take every conceivable short-cut to get that loot and there's somehow prestige in that?

Something should be done with that zone that makes it impossible to trivialize the encounters. Make the dragons summon the other mobs in the zone like CT, or if going with the spawn dragons with quest idea, make the quest pieces drop from the wurms in VP.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:53 PM
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VP is another thing that could use some non-classic massaging. A guild can be in and out downing a dragon in under 15 minutes and it's supposed to be the hardest zone in the game right now. Where's the fun in that? I understand, you're racing another guild and the fastest one gets the loot, but really? You take every conceivable short-cut to get that loot and there's somehow prestige in that?

Something should be done with that zone that makes it impossible to trivialize the encounters. Make the dragons summon the other mobs in the zone like CT, or if going with the spawn dragons with quest idea, make the quest pieces drop from the wurms in VP.
Something was in place to make it harder and it was removed due to a lot of tears lol
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