Come together to make corpsing bannable!

[Niedar]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I made a post in either this thread or the other thread related to this one that goes into further details as to why this isn't a problem.

It's a molehill being turned into a mountain by a handful of people who expect camps to be open and available when they want them to be. That just isn't going to happen. I looked into all the major "problem" camps that people seem to be complaining about in these threads - the same camps that are "perma-camped" to the point where it's become a "serious issue" - like the AC, Tranix, etc. and found that they are all being rotated just fine. Plenty of people are getting an opportunity to camp these items - hence, a non-issue.

We don't necessarily like it, but Sirken already asked if it was possible to limit lore items to 1 even on corpses - unfortunately, because of the way corpses are coded, this would be exceedingly difficult and time consuming. Not worth it.

If they were to play on red on the other hand...

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a molehill being turned into a mountain by a handful of people who expect camps to be open and available when they want them to be. That just isn't going to happen. I looked into all the major "problem" camps that people seem to be complaining about in these threads - the same camps that are "perma-camped" to the point where it's become a "serious issue" - like the AC, Tranix, etc. and found that they are all being rotated just fine. Plenty of people are getting an opportunity to camp these items - hence, a non-issue.

I was done with Tranix before you made rule to be frank; only continued to push it because of the thread somebody made. I'm not interested in the camp anymore and haven't been for quite some time since I pushed it to my limit, but having said that BDA has held the camp the whole time since Asgard did it for few days after myself.

Nobody even asked me to get on list for the last 3 weeks I camped it, and the week the new rule was input. More power to BDA for holding the camp it's a good item, and I don't knock them for it because I enjoy playing an EQ with less rules. A sandbox EQ that was around before it was tarnished with ridiculous rules. However, its silly to white knight the situation when in reality they've controlled the camp ever sense lol. Nobody has used the new list rule at Tranix as far as I've witnessed; doesn't seem successful.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was done with Tranix before you made rule to be frank; only continued to push it because of the thread somebody made. I'm not interested in the camp anymore and haven't been for quite some time since I pushed it to my limit, but having said that BDA has held the camp the whole time since Asgard did it for few days after myself.

Nobody even asked me to get on list for the last 3 weeks I camped it, and the week the new rule was input. More power to BDA for holding the camp it's a good item, and I don't knock them for it because I enjoy playing an EQ with less rules. A sandbox EQ that was around before it was tarnished with ridiculous rules. However, its silly to white knight the situation when in reality they've controlled the camp ever sense lol. Nobody has used the new list rule at Tranix as far as I've witnessed; doesn't seem successful.

well you may be able to say that you coincidentally were done with it the day that Derb posted the rule about having to pass over a camp after you get your item.. But whether you know it or not, everyone I spoke to that took the camp after said "I'm camping it cus now you have to hand the camp over when you get your item".

I'm not saying that the rule is the reason you left, but it seemed to be working immediately.

Also people weren't sending you tells because everyone was saying to each other, 'he is permacamping it, so there is no point in trying to camp it' because people didn't know that you had to pass the camp on after you got your item.

If the rule was well known as it is now when you started your permacamping clark, you would not have been able to own it as long as you did.

You had a great run and ima let you finish but taylor swift had the best video of all time.

[iruinedyourday]

what item? like AC ring? well thats easy, if u see ac, its gona drop a ring.. tranix? well hopefully they arnt looting mithral torqs & destroying them, just ask them to leave the one they have on them there.. and if they dont then you can assume they got the hat.

what like frenzied? yea.. maybe... there are like 5 10k item merbs out there, so when 1 is camped, then just move to another one, where senior jerk jerky jerk isnt there...

I agree that its a long camp to wait for 2 rare drops before you can get your chance at it.. but seriously 9/10 times people are COOL in game! and will put you on a list and you don't even have to sit there next to them... Hell i prefer if people DONT sit next to me when im camping something because chances are there is this MASSIVE RP drama going on in my head and sometimes i like to act it out in game with /emots and :things.. So im happy to take down an alts name and send them a tell when I'm done...

Its gona get cray in velious yes, and to get some of that stuff you know you want, you are going to have to figure out how to camp an item for at least 2 drops, maybe more.. you may find a camp with like 8 people in line literately standing there waiting for a camp.. shits cray, but that is how i got my Jboots off najina 15 years ago, by waiting in a virtual que for 25hrs.. so technically it is classic.

Im just trying to say that its not as bad as it is in our heads, in reality... and it will be as bad as it is in our heads once velious is launched, but its not exactly a terrible thing.

I for one am getting by just fine, even though I wasnt here early enough to get a DE mask.. id LIKE a de mask, but then again, id also like super sonic jet that runs on perpetual motion.

Im just tryin to say its not as bad as it may seem to be, in reality.. on the server.. outside of forums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hell me and clark hate eachohter, jk I dont think we hate each other at all, but I argued with him about this for days and it turned out a-ok and #bluetopia is real.

[Toodles]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what item? like AC ring? well thats easy, if u see ac, its gona drop a ring.. tranix? well hopefully they arnt looting mithral torqs & destroying them, just ask them to leave the one they have on them there.. and if they dont then you can assume they got the hat.

what like frenzied? yea.. maybe... there are like 5 10k item merbs out there, so when 1 is camped, then just move to another one, where senior jerk jerky jerk isnt there...

I agree that its a long camp to wait for 2 rare drops before you can get your chance at it.. but seriously 9/10 times people are COOL in game! and will put you on a list and you don't even have to sit there next to them... Hell i prefer if people DONT sit next to me when im camping something because chances are there is this MASSIVE RP drama going on in my head and sometimes i like to act it out in game with /emots and :things.. So im happy to take down an alts name and send them a tell when I'm done...

Its gona get cray in velious yes, and to get some of that stuff you know you want, you are going to have to figure out how to camp an item for at least 2 drops, maybe more.. you may find a camp with like 8 people in line literately standing there waiting for a camp.. shits cray, but that is how i got my Jboots off najina 15 years ago, by waiting in a virtual que for 25hrs.. so technically it is classic.

Im just trying to say that its not as bad as it is in our heads, in reality... and it will be as bad as it is in our heads once velious is launched, but its not exactly a terrible thing.

I for one am getting by just fine, even though I wasnt here early enough to get a DE mask.. id LIKE a de mask, but then again, id also like super sonic jet that runs on perpetual motion.

Im just tryin to say its not as bad as it may seem to be, in reality.. on the server.. outside of forums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hell me and clark hate eachohter, jk I dont think we hate each other at all, but I argued with him about this for days and it turned out a-ok and #bluetopia is real.

What your post really touches on for me, is just how awfully (and I am speaking generally here) exploited and manipulated camps/spawns/mobs/drops will be, come the release of Velious. Right now there are hundreds of people who know way too much about all the places to be in Velious when the doors open.

It's nothing like it was back in the day, there will be zero exploration and adventure - just straight to the shooting gallery.

If people think Velious is going to 'open up' any thing, they're in for a rude awakening.

[jarshale]

Originally Posted by Toodles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What your post really touches on for me, is just how awfully (and I am speaking generally here) exploited and manipulated camps/spawns/mobs/drops will be, come the release of Velious. Right now there are hundreds of people who know way too much about all the places to be in Velious when the doors open.

It's nothing like it was back in the day, there will be zero exploration and adventure - just straight to the shooting gallery.

If people think Velious is going to 'open up' any thing, they're in for a rude awakening.

This. Everything will be permacamped for months I'm sure.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Toodles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What your post really touches on for me, is just how awfully (and I am speaking generally here) exploited and manipulated camps/spawns/mobs/drops will be, come the release of Velious. Right now there are hundreds of people who know way too much about all the places to be in Velious when the doors open.

It's nothing like it was back in the day, there will be zero exploration and adventure - just straight to the shooting gallery.

If people think Velious is going to 'open up' any thing, they're in for a rude awakening.

to some extent, yes...but most of the problem you're describing is the natural consequence of a 15 year old MMO emulator. this is a static server once velious opens and the patch timeline runs through. thats it. the pain of the situation would have been put off if the actual time line had been possible to implement, but this is where we are.

in the long run, this isn't anything we didn't know was bound to happen from the first time Nilbog made his announcement that he was working on developing a classic server.

this is still the best classic emu server out there, by far. its exactly what it set out to be and more in my opinion.

[buffmagnum]

Try other things besides banning people. It is not a people problem its a system problem. It is classic. You can't ban a bard if they are following the rules...a druid, a shaman. This small problem we have can be resolved in a different way than banning someone. I think its also a population issue and will go away once Velious comes out. Let's hope the rumors of a new server on the correct timeline are true and that should cut the population even further. Til then try harder to get along with others in the game, maybe set your mouse down walk outside and stop being part of the problem.

I am Phry.

I voted no.

[Thulack]

This is why camping items in general sucks. Making money in EC much quicker and requires way less work [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. Sitting at a camp waiting on 1 drop is for newbs. Sit in EC and you have a chance at any item in the game coming around to get your hands on [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[iruinedyourday]

yea also dont forget in my post, i said its never really as bad on the server as it seems on the forums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]