Stop the Socking

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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When the overwhelming majority of the server is mostly(I fucking said mostly, please don't nit pick) in agreeable position on how to handle a situation that has been so hotly debated, and a very small portion of the server is unwilling to budge because of their irrational fears of lootflation, isn't it an easy decision to do what benefits the overwhelming majority, who can concede certain points to the "other side" in pursuit of a better embodiment for all?

There's probably good intentions there, but we all know what paves the path to hell. Tyranny of the majority is still tyranny, it still sucks, and you know it would never stop at "we're just gonna put TMO and IB in their place."

I'm a CasualScum[tm] and a ChestCrony[tm], and I could not disagree more with your suggestion. It's fine to express frustration in those terms, but that's no way to run an EQ server.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Catherin,

What if the answer is we can't play nicely together?

Joyelle,

Same sort of question. If people can't play nicely together because they don't want their pixels devalued, I think we've identified the problem.



When the overwhelming majority of the server is mostly(I fucking said mostly, please don't nit pick) in agreeable position on how to handle a situation that has been so hotly debated, and a very small portion of the server is unwilling to budge because of their irrational fears of lootflation, isn't it an easy decision to do what benefits the overwhelming majority, who can concede certain points to the "other side" in pursuit of a better environment for all?

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[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe we need people like this guy who's hearts aren't so tainted by the poop in their socks and the pixels in their bags.

He's got very good point, and the raiding population on this server is grossly in excess of what this content was designed to accommodate.

What if all respawn timers were made classic, then cut by 2/3rds, and given +/- 1 hour variance?

Numbers are rough but this lets more people get more loot and is somewhat of a scaleable way to handle the mass demand for these mobs.

Exclude VP or let the guilds who could handle VP come up with VP specific rules, since that's it's own beast.

I remember this type of thing being proposed before, but ultimately the upper echelon of the raid scene shot it down because the argument was that it would devalue their pixels. I'm pretty sure people have even proposed it with greatly diminished loot tables and it was met with a wall of Not Classic.

[Wenuven]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember this type of thing being proposed before, but ultimately the upper echelon of the raid scene shot it down because the argument was that it would devalue their pixels. I'm pretty sure people have even proposed it with greatly diminished loot tables and it was met with a wall of Not Classic.

I wonder if they would be more willing to implement this at Velious launch.

That way most Kunark loot is already going to implode in value, and any new uber loot from Velious will be addressed before it is stockpiled.

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Wenuven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wonder if they would be more willing to implement this at Velious launch.

I don't see that happening at Velious launch either. The hardcores keep saying Velious will keep them busy enough that the casuals will have better chances at Kunark and Old World mobs. I will believe it when I see it.

[Juhstin]

Harder to sock on Red server, come here.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

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[Juhstin]

Can also just forget the raid mobs in general. Have everyone in rotation and every repop day a chest spawns for said guild and they just get the loot for the giving week from all raid mobs. Then people won't cry about poopsocking raid loot.

[Lazie]

As usual you can't have a civil discussion without Chest coming into a thread with his warped view of events. Chest if you want to cause argumentative responses to factually incorrect statements you make please take it to RNF.

[Joyelle]

...aaand off to RnF this goes, another one down the crapper, boys!

Congratulations! You did it!