Class R

[Sirken]

couple things.


1. We arent changing the R/C/FFA cycle to anything else.
2. VP mobs will remain Class C only mobs for as long as its the top endgame zone.
3. I will talk to the staff about a concrete way for guilds to be able to move from C to R, however this has to be done very carefully to prevent top guilds from moving down to R.


This system was created and implemented with the expectation that most of the FFA mobs would go to Class C. The idea was never to "take away" from Class C so much as it was to try and allow more non Class C players to experience raid content, as well as a stepping stone to join Class C when ready. Thus making Class C more tempting to newer, up and coming guilds, as Class C will still have a larger piece of the pixel pie, will not suffer from lockouts, will have exclusive rights to VP and the best loots in Kunark era, and is given more room by staff to work out their own disputes (as it is the non restricted class).

not everyone may agree with this, but this is the position of the staff.

[Raev]

Detoxx, straight question here. The whole point of Class C is to compete, yes? So why are you guys so concerned with keeping stuff like VP Class C and not FFA? What would you say to a system where:

1. Repops straight FFA, 2 bag limit outside of VP
2. Normal spawns alternate FFA/R outside of VP, pure FFA inside
3. All guilds are in the Class R rotation, which becomes GM enforced.

In other words there is no C/R distinction, just some guilds are more successful with the FFA targets than others.

[arsenalpow]

Because they don't really want to compete. They'll find a new way to game the system every chance they get, they'll absorb competition, and they LawyerQuest their way to uncontested spawns.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because they don't really want to compete. They'll find a new way to game the system every chance they get, they'll absorb competition, and they LawyerQuest their way to uncontested spawns.

Come velious the bitching will be cause TMO/IB have toons camped out at every mob and still end up getting a majority of the loot. Anyone that thinks that anything will change come velious is very naive.

[Oleris]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come velious the bitching will be cause TMO/IB have toons camped out at every mob and still end up getting a majority of the loot. Anyone that thinks that anything will change come velious is very naive.

From what Sirken said today, you can't camp at spawns still in velious. So, unless someone can figure out how to survive dragging a train in ToV it will be a pain to go to dragons.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Oleris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From what Sirken said today, you can't camp at spawns still in velious. So, unless someone can figure out how to survive dragging a train in ToV it will be a pain to go to dragons.

it will be more difficult to sock velious only because you can't earfuck a dragon when it has more than 32k hp, but as long as kunark/orig has 7 day spawns those will be easy to pick off with a camped out force and TMO/IB will definitely go after that stuff when it suits them. They've said PD and Hoshkar will be targets they chase even into velious.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They've said PD and Hoshkar will be targets they chase even into velious.

No we havent. Hoshkar has nothing that transcends kunark, and not even close to worth it. PD/Druushk are the only targets I see as viable after velious.

[portbitch69]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The whole point of Class C is to compete, yes? So why are you guys so concerned with keeping stuff like VP Class C and not FFA?

they want to ccompete against you on everything, not just ffa targets... class c guilds want more class c guilds, not more ffa targets. and as usual class r guilds want more hand outs

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by dustysr06 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

class R should not get VP mobs, nor be allowed to kill them on repops- chest can 'define' class C and R all he wants, saying its play-style but im fairly sure i remember server staff indicating class R was there to prepare for class C

the server has always been this way, its a naturally occurring in every game... you have more casual guilds where its more hardcore members eventually move on to more hardcore guilds, and said casual guild continues to bring in more warm bodies to fill those voids. i dont like the term 'feeder' but i have full faith and confidence in guilds like Taken and BDA to 'compete' in and outside of VP- because of the 'practice' they've had in class R... rotation has done its job- now if you want more content, its time to move up to the next class imo?

This guy gets it.



You want VP dragons before velious? Take a chance then and make the leap. Otherwise just wait your turn in the class R loot vending machine line.

[Pokesan]

those dragons are mine by right because i spend 80 hours per week playing a video game