Raid Scene Proposal

[Genedin]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what epic did you get cockblocked from for two years? what characters did you play? i'm pretty sure you've only been playing mordeath for a few months now, during which time you were a nihilum applicant at one point

there are very few people that have been consistently been playing here for two years against nihilum the entire time; you're not someone that comes to mind

How do you pretend to know these things about me when you haven't even been playing on this server but once a week at best for the past how long until nihilum got disbanded?

See forum sig. Played on blue server for about 2 weeks after creating sig then moved to Red.

Did 1 raid with Nihilum after my pal Sektors asked me to join and no other guilds were on the server and I had stopped playing. Went to Mexico for a week and got booted as an app and decided I didn't want to re apply after hanging out in teamspeak for said one raid. Played with Brobb and pals in <Force> and every resistance guild since. So I dunno why you keep acting like I was ever part of Nihilum or that I'm somehow new to the server or resistance.....which we already went over in another thread but since I keep shitting on your crybaby posts you keep bringing up the same moot argument against me as not having been part of the resistance.

I'll be in Austin tomorrow we can discuss over a beer if you are not understanding via text mang.

Server still best place to contest and start a guild on as it's been in 2 years and that's the only point I've been making in any of my posts yet am under attack.

[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

remember when you begged to join holocaust and then 3 days later started spouting off in /ooc that you'd never join holocuast?

nothing you say holds any value

Andis is a scrub try hard wannabe. It's so sad reading his posts.

[Colgate]

you still haven't told me what characters you played

[Koota]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With guilds like Holocaust, Blaze, and Eternal Light starting to field 15+ members regularly for raids and each guild continuing recruitment, it is only a short matter of time until there will be competition over the end game raid mobs. I am proposing the following things to keep the atmosphere away from becoming anything similar to what it was with Nihilum running the show. My aim is to keep the raid scene relatively casual, civil, and fun. I'd like this to be an open brainstorm session, and I'd like people to refrain from shitting this thread up and perpetuating the issues that this server currently has.

- Agreements not to over-recruit. Every single raid mob in the game can be killed with 4 or fewer groups. When your guild begins exceeding say 30 people at each raid, stop recruiting entirely. Numbers will naturally go down over time, and if they don't, I'm willing to bet that there is always a person or two in every guild that deserves to be kicked out. Nothing was worse than before where, at times, the only competition between Azrael and Nihilum was who could recruit more new players and sustain those numbers week after week. In the long run, this should lead to new guilds forming and even more chaos when several guilds are competing for the same mob(s), while lowering the chance that one single guild will monopolize content.

- Spread raid mob timers far apart to more reasonable times. This one is mostly directed at Azrael, considering they have all the important raid mobs on lockdown right now. Regardless of how you guys feel, a majority of the server does not want to wake up before noon on a Sunday. My idea would be to spread Venril Sathir, Phara Dar, Severilous, Innoruuk, and Cazic-Thule to different days entirely, and try to keep them in a more primetime slot. These are the only mobs that most of the raid scene cares about, and keeping them all on one day only promotes a winner-take-all environment that existed with Nihilum around. I think we all know that whoever won that Venril Sathir fight on repop day took every single raid mob thereafter 19 out of 20 times. When one side loses, many people often get demoralized and log off for the day, and then they have to wait 6 more days until they get another shot at any of the mobs they care to fight over. I believe that having the important raid mobs several different days of the week will keep more people logging in even if they lost the previous fight. It will create far more opportunities for mass PvP, thus lowering the odds that one guild will keep everything on lockdown.

- Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. This will not only benefit the raid scene, but server population in general. Controlling your members who want to spam /ooc, shit up the forums, grief people on twinks, etc. will keep more newbies interested in leveling up to join us at the endgame. For instance, after mass pvp over a raid mob happens, the winning guild should kill the NPC, then offer to rez the opposing side's clerics and allow them to clear out. People should be cordial and not constantly give the community insight into whatever personality/social disorder they're currently suffering. Following this philosophy will allow us to police the server ourselves instead of relying on petitionquest every single day. If a guild foregoes this idea and decides that they'd rather act like pieces of shit, then the rest of us can make a concentrated effort to treat them like pieces of shit.

It's time to become men about it pals.

All of this coming from C-Wall is laughable, at best. Fuck outta here, bluebie.

[orran]

Originally Posted by Genedin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you pretend to know these things about me when you haven't even been playing on this server but once a week at best for the past how long until nihilum got disbanded?

See forum sig. Played on blue server for about 2 weeks after creating sig then moved to Red.

Did 1 raid with Nihilum after my pal Sektors asked me to join and no other guilds were on the server and I had stopped playing. Went to Mexico for a week and got booted as an app and decided I didn't want to re apply after hanging out in teamspeak for said one raid. Played with Brobb and pals in <Force> and every resistance guild since. So I dunno why you keep acting like I was ever part of Nihilum or that I'm somehow new to the server or resistance.....which we already went over in another thread but since I keep shitting on your crybaby posts you keep bringing up the same moot argument against me as not having been part of the resistance.

I'll be in Austin tomorrow we can discuss over a beer if you are not understanding via text mang.

Server still best place to contest and start a guild on as it's been in 2 years and that's the only point I've been making in any of my posts yet am under attack.

colgate is like 14 in rl he cant drink yet

[Andis]

Originally Posted by orran [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

colgate is like 14 in rl he cant drink yet

and confirmed tiny

[freez]

Originally Posted by Koota [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of this coming from C-Wall is laughable, at best. Fuck outta here, bluebie.

mad alert

[Gullytheghost]

lite is the new nizzar

pras the new duke

[Koota]

Originally Posted by freez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

mad alert

never a factor alert.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your brain has been rotting over the past several weeks, sad to say

azrael is doing azrael with 30 members

holocaust doesn't even logon enough to even be considered a guild here on red99

you cry about dragons and timers, but holo is "not about dragons"

you are right, brain rot is real.

Holocaust has been trying to promote a casual but competitive atmosphere. Azrael so far is pushing a competitive and hardcore atmosphere. Both like the idea of playing with low numbers (this hasn't been tested yet so we will see when real competition happens).

The issue is Azrael will log there 30 members in at anytime, no matter the time of day, while Holocaust currently will not do this. Some of the same ideas are overlapping but Holocaust wants Azrael to agree to their casual game play and Azrael is refusing. Neither is in the wrong, but as of now these two guilds aren't going to provide a fun atmosphere unless Azrael chills out or Holocaust steps it up.

It may not be possible for Holocaust to step it up because it appears they have too many players that aren't willing to put in 30+ hours a week. (This is why Colgate said he can produce 30 on Sunday if you would like, but then during the week they may have 45 since casuals are sporadic).

Lite is basically saying can't this server provide 30 people that want to play as hardcore as me and my 29 friends do? Well the answer is not at the moment and Holocaust at its core doesn't want to play the game like this.

You will need to wait for one of these starter guilds to compete and that can easily turn into the same atmosphere we saw with Nihilum. Where the top players are recruited into Azrael to replace Azrael players that get geared and stop logging in while the smaller developing guilds bleed their top players because they leave for Azrael.