Why are black people so angry?

[Skinned]

Originally Posted by Lictor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if a white kid unaware of his surroundings walked into a black neighborhood with his head shaved and a neo-nazi shirt on, gets into an altercation and dies, would the white community be as outraged as the black community with Zimmerman?

So Skittles and a snapple to whites is like a neo-nazi shirt and a shaved head? Clear dearth of critical thinking.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I went back and actually read the 2nd point, and its even more mind-bendingly ridiculous than the first! Didn't think it was possible! The words of the guy standing over the unarmed dead body are usually true, if there's anything I've learned from watching police procedurals. That's probably how it went down, sure.

what is it about the criminal system that you're struggling with? the burden is on the prosecutor to prove the elements of the case beyond a reasonable doubt.

zimmerman's story is the only eye-witness testimony anyone has, and it's largely corroborated by the evidence. does that make it true? no -- it doesn't have to be. it has to instill a reasonable doubt. so when you make a contrary claim based on absolutely no evidence, there is reasonable doubt as to whether your fabricated narrative is exactly what happened. you don't convict a man of murder based on that.

the burden wasn't on zimmerman. you don't have to believe him. you have to prove that his story is not what happened, beyond any reasonable doubt. that's impossible, given the evidence

it's really not that hard to comprehend

[Lictor]

A reasonable person looking at both hypotheticals realize the likelyhood of an incident is high. Why is society at large shocked when one occurs?

[Lictor]

Originally Posted by Skinned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Skittles and a snapple to whites is like a neo-nazi shirt and a shaved head? Clear dearth of critical thinking.

Skittles and snapper had nothing to do with the hypothetical. Go back and read it again.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what is it about the criminal system that you're struggling with? the burden is on the prosecutor to prove the elements of the case beyond a reasonable doubt.

zimmerman's story is the only eye-witness testimony anyone has, and it's largely corroborated by the evidence. does that make it true? no -- it doesn't have to be. it has to instill a reasonable doubt. so when you make a contrary claim based on absolutely no evidence, there is reasonable doubt as to whether your fabricated narrative is exactly what happened. you don't convict a man of murder based on that.

the burden wasn't on zimmerman. you don't have to believe him. you have to prove that his story is not what happened, beyond any reasonable doubt. that's impossible, given the evidence

it's really not that hard to comprehend

Uh, I'm not saying that the tragedy is that he wasn't convicted... what kind of monster are you?

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Lictor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A reasonable person looking at both hypotheticals realize the likelyhood of an incident is high. Why is society at large shocked when one occurs?

because a black kid walking in a white neighborhood shouldn't be equated to a neo-nazi walking in a black neighborhood. a black kid in a white neighborhood should be treated the same way a white kid in a white neighborhood would be. society should be appalled if what you were saying is true

but it's not. white-on-black crime in predominantly white neighborhoods isn't exactly an epidemic sweeping the nation. martin had a reasonable expectation of safety. zimmerman was probably unreasonable in following him.

but that's a far cry from murder

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

This shit is like b-team RnF, who the fuck are you morons? Like boxing with homeless children around here (a popular pastime in Florida, I believe).

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uh, I'm not saying that the tragedy is that he wasn't convicted... what kind of monster are you?

uh, the quote i replied to never mentioned a tragedy and never even mentioned trayvon, except as an unarmed dead body. you discussed the reliability of zimmerman's testimony. i replied on that topic.

very few people would disagree that martin's death was a tragedy. as i've already said, it was truly unfortunate. but this case isn't famous because the country was in mourning over the death of a black teenager. the cause célèbre focused on the perception that there was a miscarriage of justice

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This shit is like b-team RnF, who the fuck are you morons? Like boxing with homeless children around here (a popular pastime in Florida, I believe).

I think you just cleared up the entire Zimmerman case. He thought he was a homeless kid and just wanted to go a few rounds.

[Lictor]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

because a black kid walking in a white neighborhood shouldn't be equated to a neo-nazi walking in a black neighborhood. a black kid in a white neighborhood should be treated the same way a white kid in a white neighborhood would be. society should be appalled if what you were saying is true

but it's not. white-on-black crime in predominantly white neighborhoods isn't exactly an epidemic sweeping the nation. martin had a reasonable expectation of safety. zimmerman was probably unreasonable in following him.

but that's a far cry from murder

I agree, but a good number of Americans equate them as the same.