Remember all those massive WTS threads by Nizzar?

[heartbrand]

You would never be able to automatically block access, but I'm sure if you banned enough of a persons re-rolls after substantial time was put into leveling them, they'd pack their bags and leave. Note, I'm not suggesting this course of action be taken in this scenario, just that you don't need to deny someone access to being able to log onto p99 in order to deter them from playing.

[Kergan]

Losing the time invested in characters/items is punishment enough for nearly every crime committed on this server. Ban their shit and move on, who cares if they want to keep playing.

Exception being people using hacks or DoS'ing. Or posting dicks in the normal forums.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You would never be able to automatically block access, but I'm sure if you banned enough of a persons re-rolls after substantial time was put into leveling them, they'd pack their bags and leave. Note, I'm not suggesting this course of action be taken in this scenario, just that you don't need to deny someone access to being able to log onto p99 in order to deter them from playing.

Absolutely, but this solution is usually only reserved for the worst of the worst. The platlords, or dupe exploiters, 3rd party program distributors, etc.

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One would think... but this has been necessary a few times in the past... (Ralph being one great example) and they just don't give up.

And then there's this [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] And the really bad ones always come back.

[no chewie dont]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3rd party program distributors

map hax imo

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by no chewie dont [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

map hax imo

Honestly why isn't the map shit considered a 3rd party program that gives an advantage? SEQ doesn't hack anything and just reads data already being sent to your computer (just like this map thing) but is considered a big bad no-no.

Just not understanding why the map thing is condoned and SEQ isn't.

[Iandyan]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Other times, it's a guild who lets one of their members get caught training, then publicly throws them under the bus while privately letting them play another account for the duration of their punishment.

Never underestimate people's determination to be pieces of shit.

LOL! It's the "account" that's banned right.

I'd think hacking or otherwise messing with the server would be the top priority for the CSR staff's investigations with RMT coming in at a way behind 2nd place.

Unless staff are trolling the RMT websites daily hoping for someone dumb enough to have an account on those sites with the same name as their p99 login. I bet it's happened.

[Mac Drettj]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me tell you the story of Ralph. Picture a time before the anti-hax dlls. No way to easily or verifiably confirm whether anyone was hacking without a lot of time and a lot of luck. Ralph was a druid, he had track. He had a perfectly viable excuse for knowing when mobs were up in the zone.

So he sat in Dagnor's Cauldron and farmed the everliving fuck out of Pearl Kedge Totems. Ralph also 2boxed an EC account, on which he kept all of his money, and from which he sold the PKTs. Months passed, with Ralph supporting his actual living expenses by doing this.

One day, a brand new guide named Uthgaard gets a petition from Ralph. Someone trained him while he was sleeping and waiting for the timer to wake him up. Ralph was now level 30. It was too late for all but a few rezzes, and Uthgaard just didn't have the access to help poor Ralph.

Then, not two days later, it happened again. Ralph was down to level 20. This time, Ralph threw the biggest hissy fit ever thrown, and blamed the staff. Well, Ralph took some of his proceeds and reinvested in his business, securing a powerlevel back up to 40.

The person who trained Ralph secretly came forward and confessed. They did it because they were tired of him locking down the PKT, and they also knew he was using MQ2. Armed with that knowledge, Ralph managed to get busted, after having wasted most of his profits on relevelling. Ralph wasn't going to be able to pay his bills.

His alt was still a secret however, and he used his money to buy a new Druid. This new druid did exactly the same thing for about a month before anyone figured it out. But he still had this alt where he kept all of his money. He couldn't afford a new character anymore, so he just made a new one, gave it a PKT, and started levelling. He made it to mistmoore before someone ratted him out for two-boxing.

But that still wasn't the last time Ralph showed his face. Sometimes it's one person just being determined. Other times, it's a guild who lets one of their members get caught training, then publicly throws them under the bus while privately letting them play another account for the duration of their punishment.

Never underestimate people's determination to be pieces of shit.

If a power level from 20-40 ran Ralph dry of all operating liquidity then Ralph is a retard and or you falsely accused him of being a hacker/rmter and or you just wasted your time being an Internet detective and investigated someone for making 25 cents an hour on a 15 year old game.

[Koota]

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[no chewie dont]

the way it was explained to me is that people who know how to navigate zones have an advantage over others. so, by allowing players who dont want to know how to navigate a zone to simply run 3rd party map hacks it removes the skill gap that would exist, helping create more meaningful pvp in a more even setting

sounds legit

a 3rd party "/stick utility" is next NOT A HACK THO

[Kergan]

Well, I am not really familiar with where named mobs spawn so to alleviate that skill gap I'll run SEQ on a 2nd machine with a NIC in promiscuous mode and port mirror my shit in order to remain undetectable.

I assume that still works like it did back in '99 anyway.